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I cannot even tell if it was a truck at one time in history.

Use of the hand throtle (really more of an engine speed control) won't cause the BMP/OT to sink - forgetting to close external valves or seal the rear doors will though!

Look at the small TV screen below the R/H vision block, follow the large white pipe down and, just up from the base of the picture you'll see a black knob. This js the engine kill/idle speed control. Screw it in to kill the engine, screw it out to set idle speed. Pretty well conscript proof!!

No, but I think it would cause the engine to drive the vehicle under water where it could enter the engine air intake and cause the engine to stall.

These things have a way of getting stuck.

Shirley you mean to get them to assist in your choice and then take them out on the lash

Before, during, or after the withams trip :-D. Chug it like water while cranking bolts for motivation.

You are indeed a very brave man!

That would cost a fortune(in the pub!):-D

No-one can outdrink a US Marine. We have the stoutest livers, the filthiest minds, and the highest morals of any fighting force in the world!

(I'm not a drinker..but everyone else in the Corps is).

Might I add..the title of this thread is a little misleading.

IN Soviet Russia, BMP runs you!

Seen a few advertisements on milweb for one named Lt. David Horsky of the Czech Reserve forces selling off vehicles and equipment. I've heard some horror stories also.

Anyone have experiance with them?

Similar then... Not enough room in the BMP/OT to recline the seat to do the gangsta thing (Commander sits immediately behind you). You can however, once the beast is rollling, set the hand throttle, pop yourself out of the hatch and steer with your feet quite easily.

 

This is the hot seat for the OT-90:

 

Lever centre and left of the "steering column" is the High/low range selector, lever to the rear and right is the gear shift

We have an engine throttle lever for use in water but we are instructed under no circumstances to ever, ever, ever even contemplate using it. It's apparently sunk a few vehicles, thus the importance of never using it.

Although if we did we could drive the aav from outside the vehicle

How much did yours set you back AR? Does the turret have a spot for you to ride on top like the bmp1?

I've always thought of getting Safariswing, Sirhc05, and that other REME dude bladdered up on beer at a pub then dragging them down to the Witham's tender sale to pick out a nice cvrt for me when I go to the UK on business.

AAVs have a bow-tie shaped steering wheel, so you can recline the seat and cop your best "gangsta" look while rolling down the street and still be able to control the vehicle.

Close - but no coconut - you just failed vehicle recognition!!

 

There are a few more differences than just a turret swap - suspension changes for starters. The OT has shockers on the second pair of road wheels too - just to name but one...

Any other questions or if you would like to have a look at mine - feel free to ask!!

They explode just the same when hit by HEDP

In my defense, I've never gotten to climb on one and examine it with tender loving care !

(If I was in the UK I would go by Russian truck with a drool cup and stare all day)

Why'd it ruin the day? - you got fresh mutton (or lamb dependant on age) for your meal that night and the farmer got well recompensed by the MoD. 99 times out of a 100 we would get mutton curry for dinner the night after a live fire ex.

The LMG isn't, I think, really classified as a machine gun as such - maybe Mike (FerretFixer) can clarify this?, it's more a support weapon as it has the 30 round gravity feed mags rather than the belts of the GPMG.

 

Hand ups all those who remember lying there on a sustained fire session on a cold, wet, windswept range, peeing on the hot barrel of a GPMG to cool it down???

Our LMGs are m249 SAWs and belt fed, squad-level support, fully automatic weapons, fed from a 200rd box.

It's a fun weapon too, a very large, oversized m16 with enormous magazines

Man, you must be living in a bad neighbourhood!

 

H.

I live out in the country. Nothing of interest ever happens out here, but there's always that one time a serial killer or band of brigands picks your house to plunder.

No fortunatley 'THEY' deided we can own a .22, 'THEY' were even gracious enough to allow us to keep .22 self loaders! So both the Moss and No2 are used regularly. The whole subject of sport shooting and hunting, wth or without hounds is a very charged political subject in UK. so I'll avoid a slap on the wrist from the Mods. :-D

Man, ya'll should come to Texas in the US. We hunt with truck bumpers (at 80 Km/h), spears, dogs, explosives, automatic weapns, suppressors. You'll get nothing but cheers from the farmers for killing them all.

We are having a major problem with wild pigs eating and destroying lawns and farms. They're a rather tasty problem.

Anything from .17-50 cal is good to go without any government interference or notification..Hoorah for the constitution (Does not apply in certain communist areas).

Neil (Artists Rifles) on here runs an OT90, which is a BMP1 variant I believe. I think he's also maybe looking to sell, could be worth a PM.

Ot90 is just a bmp1 with a different turret and gun-14.5mm vs 73mm

I had absolutely no clue what a guy ant was but I thought it was a type and you meant to say "Gay ant"...

Learn something new everyday.

Show off! I have a Mossberg MB42a, from a batch delivered in 1941, issued to British Army under Lease Lend, only made for British use. It is .22 bolt action, marked US property, The main diffrence is anything offred for sale over here has to be proof marked. There are two proof houses Birmingham nad London. they also proof mark de-activated weapons. Embarrisingly I'd been shooting the Mossberg for a while before it was noticed , no proof mark! The reason is it had gone stright into military use and been transferred to a Sea Cadet unit where it stayed till 1990. A quick trip to Birmingham was order of the day. so now has all its marks.

It's deactivated?

:argh:

Destruction of a peice of history.

the cvrt also uses its speed as a form of protection, shoot and run, and it is faster than most anything else on the battle field, or at least anything with tracks...plus the newer models have been up armoured with more modern type armour, as have the 432's...(and I know the 432 is steel)

 

The fact is nothing is immune from a bomb...no matter how big or strong, there will always be a bomb that can take it out...targeted ied's can just about do for anything and anyone...and if your intent is to cause as much injury and harm as possible because you are a peace loving religious group then the tools exist to allow them to do that...sad but so very true...

As much as I have tried, I could never get my AAV above 45 MPH without hitting the red line on the engine and risking blowing the pack.

I'll definetly race a CVRT if I ever see one...in the ocean, perhaps

My bad Sirhc05...I thought these were from a different forum. Imitation is...

Got these from SS (I think)

Iraqi Scorpions in a graveyard someplace in Iraq (Iraq has many AFV graveyards like this). Appear to be complete, no destruction , possibly just dragged here and left.

Gimpy was originally an FN design as was SLR, funny how neuteral countrys make the best weapons. Note SAW is an FN design as well

The Fn mag 58 is a BAR flipped upside down and adapted for belts, so you can technically say it's an American design

SAW draws some of it's design from the Kalashnikov. Look at the bolt group and you will see what I mean. Good weapon that kills.

Without sounding foolish,what are the problems with the M60 as a weapon?

I can hardly believe that the U.S. armed forces have just adopted a gun that has been in the British army's arsenal for nearly fifty years.

Maybe our guys in defence procurement did some good work (for once).

I think that we call it the L7 A2, but to most people,it is known as the 'jimpy '.It replaced the Bren gun which was in service in WW2.

It must be a real honour to become part of one of the most respected fighting forces in existance.

Unfortunately I am now too old to ever be a part of such an organisation and am what is referred to as an 'armchair warrior'. I sometimes wonder what might have happened if I had joined the Army when the Falklands campaign was current...

I cannot begin to imagine what beastings occur while you are training.If 'Full Metal Jacket' was easy, I would fear the reality greatly.

Take care,

Richard.

The m60 had almost a dozen parts that could be installed backwards and not be noticed until the weapon would not fire. Jammed frequently, had problems with the barrel changes (No carry handle on 2nd barrel), poorly designed, fragile feed system...

The m60 had a poor acceptance with the USMC, thus begetting the wonderful m240

I have bad knees from boot camp due to the abuse. I'm going to be a cane-using veteran in my older years.

But would not have been fitted to an SLR carried in the cab of a Stalwart in the early eighties!!

True, we always used open sights until we got the Acogs

But the Bradley has an Aluminium hull too... "Aluminum 7017" same grade as the CVR(T)'s. Haven't Bradleys also been taken out by RPG's & IED's:confused:

AAVs, bradleys, m113....

All have alluminum hulls.

M113s and AAVs are rarely used outside the wire because they aren't as well armored against threats like the bradley is. Big IEDs and car bombs still cause losses to brads, despite weighing so much and having a lot of armor.

Brads are still used in Iraq..just with lots and lots of passive armor on the side to stop RPGs.

The Abrams is very RPG proof and resistant to IEDs, so are the MRAPs with the RPG cage. Heavier+steel+TUSK kit=works.

Tusk kit adds 5 tons of 5" thick steel belly armor and more passive armor along the sides.

Mraps do well in IEDs because the force of the blast either knocks them over or gets vented away due to the V-shape.

It's not 'alluminum' it's an aluminium alloy, it obviously works otherwise they wouldn't have used it.

 

http://www.keytometals.com/Article90.htm

Learned something new!

I am afraid you obviously know nothing about the CVR(T) armour and its development, it is not a Coke can. It was designed in the mid-1960's with ballistic protection of frontal arc against 14.5mm Anti-tank rounds and with all round protection against 7.62mm armour piercing ammo at all ranges.. All over protection from 105mm HE shells detonating on the ground or in the air at 30m. Protection from mines exploding under the tracks.

 

The fact that these vehicles have been sold to countries around the world and used successfully by British Forces, speaks for itself.

 

I was involved in repairing and maintaining them for some years for the British Army, so have first hand technical experience of them.

Richard,

105mm? Impressive, for a small vehicle. But larger artillery shells are more commonly used as IED explosives because Muj figured out that the bigger the bomb and the more you could put together in series the better chance you had of killing infidels. They routinely put 4-5 155mm arty shells in the back of a kia and ram Coalition vehicles, or bury them 2 feet deep in a dirt road.

I had absolutely no idea about the AL alloy or the resistance (or is it proof to 14.5 at up to 300m or such?) to 14.5mmx114. I guess with the Uparmoring done they will withstand bigger rounds?

Sand is what we use

An ACOG or eotech would work just as well, BDC might be off, but you can still hit stuff with accuracy at distance.

1982 Romanian Guarda (Their equivelant to the TA or National Guard) AKM. Sat around in a Romanian armory until 2003 or so when it was imported to the US and I had it rebuilt by the expert AK-smiths at Missouri Custom Armaments for my 20th Birthday. Wonderful shooter, served as my home defense rifle until I got the glock and m4. Does a nice little number on wild pigs. I have about a dozen magazines for it and a few thousand rounds. It shares ammunition with the SKS, since they are both 7.62x39 weapons.

1944 Springfield m1 Garand, Saw service in the last year or so of World war 2 and also Korea, came back Stateside and was rebarreled in 1953, then surplused out to the Civilian Marksmanship program where I bought it in 2004 for my 18th birthday. I have only put about 90 rounds through it, but it's not a shooter for me. It's a safe queen, to be taken out and admired every now and then as a reminder of the sacrifices previous generations made in the name of freedom, liberty, and democracy. It is #29, from the number stamped into the heel on the buttstock. This was the first gun I ever owned.

Chinese SKS-Bought in January 2005 on a whim for 150$. Great shooter. Made in 1967 and I assume was Chinese war reserve stock until it was sent to the US to be sold as surplus. 2nd weapon I bought.

Glock 17-bought this in august of 2008 as my primary concealed carry piece. Used it to qualify, and now carry it everyday. Utterly reliable and simple to use..I'm a BIG glock fan. I have a few K of ammo for it. These pistols are known to last well past 150k rounds fired, so I am guessing this weapon will outlast me.

Totally field stripped, takes about 5 seconds to do so

LMT m4-my 'Obama got elected' rifle that I purchased amidst the rush previous to the election when gun prices soared and ammunition could not be found, and nor could rifles of ANY type. I am already qualified and issued an m4 carbine as part of my MOS (But my heart lies with the m240 ), so I am familiar with the application of it in mout and Urban warfare. It's my favorite weapon and my go-to gun in the event of urban unrest or SHTF. I use it for hunting pigs and deer.

Next additions: A compact glck 26 9mm for concealed carry, a Hungarian PKM to mount in the future ferret, a Barret 50 cal m99, and possibly some more AKs and ar-15s.