john fox

9 hours ago, ChasSomT. said:

Wasn't there a difference in the turrets between Fox and Scimitar, requiring a 'spacer' when Sabre was made?

How then, where they able to mount a Scorpion turret on  a Fox?  Intriguing.

The Fox turret has a smaller ring than a CVRT one and is not as high. The adapter ring therefore addressed both problems when fitting Fox to CVRT hulls

as far as I know I have never seen any written reference to the Scorpion turrets being functional when fitted to Fox. I'm not even sure they were anything other than a way to get a turret back on a hull so that the dealers could then sell a "turreted" vehicle, bearing in mind most Foxes that initially came out were hulls only without engines and so hard to sell. Those Foxes still with Scorpion turrets are, I believe, either dropped on and loose, or fixed bolted in place and non functional film props (there was at least one such used in the Evita film "starring" Madonna)

IMHO the book on Fox remains the contemporary AFV Profile series of which No 44 neatly covers both Ferret and Fox . Obviously without the benefit of a historical perspective looking back at them now. (AFV Profile books are sought after and can be expensive, I won't post a link to those on sale in case you think I'm touting my own, which I'm not as I'll never sell it )

this is a generic non sales link:  https://www.librarything.com/work/2093915

4 hours ago, sirhc said:

There are more than 20 but less than 50 from memory. I did start a list a long time ago. Of course there are lots of vehicles hidden away in sheds that are not well known so there could be more.

agreed, spent this afternoon trawling the net and have identified 32 so far, plus the 2 hulks shown on FB, but I suspect there must be more than the 5 I've got so far in the USA and is there really only 1 in Aus/NZ . Don't suppose you still have your list to compare notes to? I need to fill in a few VRN on those I know exist but not their numbers (eg museum ones)

you and me both

2 hours ago, ChasSomT. said:

According to these lists, there were 347 CVR(W)  Fox  registrations. My, limited, research can only find the British Army admitting to ever having  200 In service.

I see that a small (?) number were sold abroad - was it Policy to give these vehicles a British ARN, does anyone know?

Does anyone know how many Foxes survive?  I reckon 20+ 

 I Don't do Facetube, but I understand there is a Fox group on there - I may have to ask a relative to have a look.

The Facebook group is more to do with ex crew reminiscences, there are very few current owners who post on it. Good for in service pics though and some excellent tales.

if you include those in museums/gate guards there must be many more than 20 survivors 

On 28/09/2017 at 7:36 AM, Hoseman said:

There's a props company in Ireland that makes ANY prop weapon .

They are called GREEN PIG, give them a shout, be surprised if they don't already do one.

not easy to find, can you provide a link please

On 16/10/2017 at 5:17 PM, 16svt said:

have you tried Bernie Smith. He sorted all my seals for my AEC O854 and was very very good.

http://www.vintagevehiclespares.com/links.php

 

thank you, was not aware of him. Let's see if he replies...

13 hours ago, Kufra Kiwi said:

I cannot find any of the threads that I started. What am I doing wrong?

there are 2 ways to find your own content

First way 

(after you log in) on the main screen on the left hand side beneath the HMVF logo there are 2 menu bars. The top one has 4 tabs: browse,. ACTIVITY, store, support. Click activity and the rest should be self evident.

Second way 

- hover your mouse over your own name on the left hand side of the post I have quoted. So hover it over Kufra Kiwi

- a pop up window will open and on the very bottom row of that window there will be 3 options: message, ignore user, and FIND CONTENT

- click on find content and that will take you to a list of every post you ever made on here (ie as at the time I posted this you have 59 posts). 

- on the left hand side of that screen is a menu. Note that one of the options is called "Forum" and under that are 2 options: "Topics" and "Posts". Topics obviously being threads you started yourself and posts being all 59 of your individual posts 

yes I had already sent an enquiry to Past Parts before starting this thread on here, sadly no reply as yet.

16 hours ago, 00EC25 said:

ok Chris, I'll enquire, thanks

 

20 hours ago, sirhc said:

Have you tried looking up a local commercial vehicle brake specialist? I use a company called Pickering Brakes & Clutches in Ilkeston. They have nearly always managed to find what I need, even CVRT master cylinder kits etc.

spoke to them today. very friendly chap, he remembered "the tank" from a long time ago but sadly is unable to help as he says the company that bought out Lockheed's parts and with whom they still deal no longer has such old ones 

4 hours ago, lowfat said:

Here you go £70.

 

http://www.historic-military-vehicle-brake-carburettor-fuelpump-spares-kit.com/alvis_parts.htm

yes, but small problem - that is the kit I  have already purchased and is from the con artist who is supplying the wrong part in that kit.

The only thing "correct" about the seal he supplied is it is rubber and is 1 1/2 inches in diameter. It is an entirely different shape and given the application is in the brake master cylinder, I do not trust it to work correctly as the piston in the cylinder engages with the raised "pip" on the Lockheed seal -  the one he supplied is completely flat and there is nothing for the piston to engage on, let alone the absence of the raised central "dome" impacting the distance of travel for the piston which "dome" presumably having been designed for such reason ?

3 hours ago, sirhc said:

Have you tried looking up a local commercial vehicle brake specialist? I use a company called Pickering Brakes & Clutches in Ilkeston. They have nearly always managed to find what I need, even CVRT master cylinder kits etc.

ok Chris, I'll enquire, thanks

3 hours ago, lowfat said:

is it for OM13 mineral oil? normal brake fluid seals dont like OM13

yes i am aware that my Fox runs on oil not brake fluid 

5 hours ago, 64EK26 said:

Hi

Have you tried  http://www.northwestclassic.co.uk

They stock a loads of Lockheed seals

Cheers

Richard

yes Richard, that is where I got the part number from, but they don't stock that one, hence my reference to having searched on google first 

looks like I picked a great time to return to the forum after many years away. Looks good, well done all.

wanted - 

brake master cylinder seal no: LV6MT9/2590-99-802-7354 (fits CVRW Fox)

Lockheed part no: 102964

Banister does not stock individual brake parts and google finds a company that sells Lockheed seals but not this one. If necessary I will consider the entire repair/service kit Lockheed SSB771 but I'd prefer just the seal

there is a bloke on the Facebook group intending to re-manufacture these ?

fascinating to see the champion off road driver with his thumbs inside the steering wheel

Its still at the appeal stage which can take months, so I've sent an email asking for an up date & will post here if any news.

I appreciate this is now ancient history but I had reason to remember this thread today and went looking for info

 

sadly "we" lost and it was demolished son after this thread way back in 2009 ... the owners can now "enjoy" their Surrey period property wealth without being reminded of who fought for their freedom so they could amass it

 

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/local-news/battle-won-pillbox-demolition-4824233

I have read & re-read these so-called-Proposals. They are NOT clear in most of their Defintions. & confusing & unworkable in most cases. If taken word by word, the 'Processes' they speak of. Cannot be executed.

Mike you have mis-read it then? As far as I understand it an LMG and a GPMG is a Cat A weapon so will be totally illegal to possess, even if deactivated. I don't have a full description of Cat A but the referncnes I have seen used are them being a weapon of military origin, so pretty obviously anything in current use would count and that will also sweep up "historic" firearms as well. Note the word is possess not own. Anyone (other than a museum or a few other approved bodies) in possession of one will be committing an offence, so whether its pre or post 95 deac as arcot1751 thinks is irrelevant as he too has mis-read, it must be surrendered to the police without compensation.

 

how long before "they" regard deactivated main armament on vehicles under the same category as well? Lose the deac or lose the vehicle????

I have signed the petition but it is pointless. This is the responses MEPs: (my bolding)

 

Catherine Bearder Liberal Democrat MEP "..... the Commission has prepared a Regulation that sets out common, strict, harmonised criteria on how Member States must deactivate weapons so they are rendered unfit to use. This is complemented by the ban on the possession of Category A firearms – even when they are deactivated. The Implementing Regulation is based on the criteria for deactivation developed by the Permanent International Commission for the Proof of Small Arms (the CIP).

 

The Commission has been negotiating this Implementing Regulation with Member States since April 2015 in the context of the comitology procedure, with discussions intensifying in the last few weeks. The draft text sent to Member States on Friday 13 November was adopted in committee on 18 November, following which the College adopted the implementing act on the same day.

In summary, the proposed revision of the Firearms Directive will debated by European Parliament and Council for adoption, the Commission are hoping its plans will be approved and come into effect by July 2016. The Commission have not mentioned compensation, so I am unable to give you an answer on that."

 

In contrast I was rather amused therefore by the "honesty" of the UKIP response: "..... I therefore believe that we in UKIP will be opposing the new EU Firearms proposal. Sadly, however, I fear it will be approved anyway. There is nothing most MEPs like more than a nice piece of gesture politics in response to public concern – whether or not their gesture has any practical effect."

I know this is an old thread but I have a related question. The post above by ferretkitt indicates the hull plate format is "mm yy nnnn" (month, year, sequence number). The plate on my Ferret 34BA64 reads "190 B 9 3" which I think means 190th unit built Sept. 53 (or "nnn B m y" as a format). Which format is correct?

yours is hull number 190 produced in September 1953

 

the hull number is always first

the next number is the month of manufacture

the last number is the final digit of the year of manufacture

 

I don't think Ferretkit's message was actually saying they appear in the order he wrote in his example, as that is the reverse of the truth.

 

Obviously with the production run lasting more than 10 years you can and do have to apply a rationality test as to which decade the final year relates to. In your case hull number 190 is very low and is supported by the fact you have square visors not triangular ones, therefore your vehicle is a very early one so the decade of manufacture must be 1950s not 1960s.

 

My ferret is hull number 3718 and year digit is 5. That makes mine 1965 not 1955 as further confirmed by the fact I do have the data plate and so can match the contract number stamped on it with the info in Pat Ware's book correlating the contract numbers and the year they were placed with the registration number sequence. OOEC25;'s contract was placed in the 1960 and so my year of manufacture is confirmed as 1965. If you have your data plate you can do the same cross check

 

that said I have no idea what the extra stamping just below your year digit means, it looks like either "HIS" or H 15?

oh wow, what a battery

hooked up 2x720 crank, 50ah red tops to my Fox which hasn't run in 6 years. Fired up second time of asking and then, when we tried to use the starter motor to turn over the fluid flywheeel to access the plug for a level check, the engine started as soon as you touched the button

 

what a set of batteries. I am converted!

John, how is the gearbox holding up since I adjusted it (many years ago)?

 

Vince

Hi Vince, sadly I didn't learn well enough from you and so made a subsequent mess of it myself. Then real life took a very bad turn so I've been out of things for last few years. Have a VM (and current Fox owner) lined up for end of April to come and do a recommission, so fingers crossed I may be back by the summer, although now financially limited in what/where i can go.

Hey ho

my contribution...Brooklands museum end of season bash

 

 

(before your ask: oversize wing mirrors mean the arm springs are not strong enough at speed, hence the added cable tie restraints)

 

Fundraiser with my local MVT group (Bushy Park - West London)

 

 

HMVF Salisbury Plain trip (a good few years ago sadly)

 

apologies for raking up this old thread but is there a paint code for the "Brunswick Green" as I'm struggling to find a anyone able to supply it with any real conviction that they know what they are mixing