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I've translated a couple of articles in the French magazine "Charge Utile". The authors seem to think the Stalwart was a commercial 6x6 modified to swim, when of course the FV600 series were punt hulls. They make comments about Alvis only selling 1000, and the orders not coming in. What they forget was that the Stalwart was £16,000 in 1963, with the mark 2 being £20,000 a piece in 66.
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I'm trying to find out how much the TBU 15 and GBC 8 cost around 1964. Do you know what they were?
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The number in the Berliet truck names is the engine litreage. The TBU 6x6 being 15 litres, and the GBC 4x4 being 8
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Mark Ellis started following Can anyone, please, help me sort these out? , French military truck prices around 1964 ??? , V.M.L. - Vehicle Manuals Library and 1 other
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Hi all, VERY long shot here, but I wonder if anyone has any prices for French Berliet trucks around 1964 / 1965. Or knows where I might find soemthing. I've joined a number of French and Berliet groups, and the French don't really appear to have saved much in the way of brochures, prices, etc. I've ready a couple of articles about the Berliet Aurochs (The French Stalwart) and they all talk about low sales figures of the Stolly. In reality of course, the mark 1 was £16,000 in 1964, an awful lot of money. The military journalists seem to think that the Stolly is like a DUKW, just another commercially available truck that's been modified to float - which of course it isn't. So I'm keen to show the price of the Berliet TBU and GBC to show the difference in value. I've tried trawling the French newspapers, but can't even find adverts or reviews after 1950 for civilian Berliet trucks. Thanks
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When was the 103rd Ruddington sale, please? There doesn't appear to be any record of the two TBUs being tested by FVRDE, just troop trials. There was at least one Berliet GCB 8 KT 4x4 submitted to FVRDE for trials.
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I was directed to Phil of PMtransportphotos, who assures me this photo belongs to Ken Porter. I wonder if this was taken at FVRDE, due to the Scammell next to it. 43 ER 38, to go with 43 ER 39
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Thanks to more people providing random manuals of military vehicles and equipment, and non military commercial vehicles, including the generous Iain @Mk3iain, I've changed this page to be a Vehicle Manuals Library. https://sites.google.com/view/alvis-stalwart-hmlc-files/vehicle-manuals-library I've got more manuals promised to me, and some that I could do with being offered to help others. But the free Library, to help others is growing. Thanks to those that have sent someone. And for those with paper copies, I'm happy to scan them in and return, or send them on to the relevant County archive. Mark
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Coloured Ghost drawing of FV651/652 Salamander
Mark Ellis replied to Mark Ellis's topic in Research Centre
Hi I think 651 was the prototype, and 652 was the production model. Take a look at https://sites.google.com/view/alvis-stalwart-hmlc-files/alvis-fv600-wheeled-section/alvis-salamander-crash-tender But there were a number of different models in the 652 Just a matter of interest the different marks of the Mk 6 is as follows; The original Mk 6 had a suction eye, the CBM (later BCF) hoses on drums, and had a 2500 GPM monitor. Mk 6 B is the Mk 6, but converted in service to a 2500/5000 GPM monitor. Mk 6 A did not have a suction eye; the CBM (later BCF) hoses were flaked in, and had a 2500 GPM monitor. Mk 6 C same as Mk 6A but had a 2500/5000 GPM monitor. Mk 6 D is the Mk 6A, but converted in service to a 2500/5000 GPM monitor. Added by Dave Wickwar on 15 January 2012. -
Hi all, I was wondering if there's a coloured ghost drawing of the FV651/652 Salamander, the same as these Saladin and Saracen drawings? I'd appreciate a copy if there is please Many thanks
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Can anyone, please, help me sort these out?
Mark Ellis replied to 10FM68's topic in Trailers, plant and equipment
@10FM68 You've seen this WW2 trailer group on Facebook ? https://www.facebook.com/groups/619129048119269 -
Any idea of how long they were in service for?