Bob042

Iain,

Fascinating, I knew you would know something of it.

So do you think it was in UK service? or just trialed?

As I'm sure you know, a 320 can be run through the DMU/BID250 for encryption so why this? It can obviously can be fixed to the standard 320 mountings a la 12W surf, so I guess it's a stand alone encryption unit?

Apologies for all the questions.

Regards

Bob

Anyone know about this bit of kit for a 320?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-CLANSMAN-RADIO-MILITARY-PRC320-CODE-MESSAGE-UNIT-CGT1052-/201889052390?hash=item2f018676e6:g:xt0AAOSw~CFY7j~6

It's obviously a sim as the l/h keyboard doesn't exist. BID?

Never seen before, pre 319 add on for the 320?, cannot find anything about it on the net.

Iain one for you?

Regards

Bob

The bottom line of it is that the whole thing is unpoliceable so long as there is no requirement to register or license deac 'weapons'. The authorities have no idea who owns what and so long as that remains, people will be able do what they want providing they are 'careful' with whom they deal with. I am not advocating anyone doing anything illegal, but the whole knee jerk farce is open to 'abuse'. You can take that how you like.

Regards

Bob

Hi Iain,

Thanks for the info, very interesting.

Because of the price I decided to leave it alone.

I have tried to find out more about it but nothing so I don't think it was ever in UK service except maybe trialed, it did have an MOD record plate on it though.

Regards

Bob

Have long known these existed and one is now for sale but know little about them,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLANSMAN-320-2-TRANSMITTER-RECEIVER-BASE-RADIO-USB-and-LSB-/201838067790?hash=item2efe7c804e:g:IDMAAOSw4CFYttwL

What were they fitted into? AFV's? I never came across one in the past life.

Also they need a 100w amp but have never seen one, and they must be even more hen's teeth than the set itself.

I would love to buy it but need more info on it's employment... Lwt FFR's?

Any info would be grateful.

It is one hell of a price though but considering it's rarity maybe not?

Regards

Bob

Thank you to all who have pm'd me expressing an interest. I have replied to you all with the price I am looking which is £500 ono. I will not be running a Dutch auction and playing people off against each other. I am open to any reasonable offer for a good deal for an increasingly rare piece.

Once sold I will notify on here.

Regards

Bob

Old spec de-ac 1991, been in my possession ever since but no longer have cert to go with it having gone missing in house move some years ago. All Birmingham proof marks present and clearly legible. Very good condition with much of original finish, also all matching serial numbers. Will take dummy .455 rounds, very crisp firing action. There is a slight crack to the cylinder (the reason it was deactivated) but not obvious unless you know where to look. The grips are also damaged, I did have a new set but again have lost them. I have more pics if anyone requires.

Anybody interested please pm me.

Regards

Bob

Hi Richard,

What is it you want to achieve? Do you have a radio fit in your vehicle? If so is it VHF or HF? Are you after wing mounted TUAAM (VHF) antennas, antennas to go vehicle side candlesticks (HF) or on 8 & 12m masts (VHF or HF)?

some pics of your wagon may help.

Sorry but you need to be more specific.

More than willing to help if you can clarify.

Regards

Bob

PS: aerial [sic] goes in washing machines, antennas on vehicles and masts (an old RSI adage).

Bob

Sorry to trouble you, just looked on EBay, would this be the kind of thing?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142177898234?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Regards

Richard

Richard,

It's no trouble, the mast your depict is a 5.4m, normally associated with infantry PRC352 man pack use at section and platoon level. FFR's in the main use the big 8m & 12m masts as already said, remoted from the vehicle (but sometimes attached with specialist fitting and associated with higher formations). These masts were made by Racal (8m & 12m) and Clark (12m) and still are supplied to MOD by the latter. There is shed loads of pics on the net of these so have a search and enjoy. They are available ex service from the usual suspects and gleebay and fetch anything from £200 - £500+ but you have to be careful. You ideally need the earlier Racal and Clark for your vehicles period. The masts support the antennas, giving extended range in simple terms, the feeders from which go through the sleeves to the vehicle radio sets, VHF & HF.

Regards

Bob

Hi,

The hardtop you picture is not from an '86 vehicle but of the much later Tithonus and Wolf type from what I can tell from the pic you've posted. That aside, the sleeve is indeed for antenna and other associated FFR services as fitted to those tops for 8m and 12m mast operations. In my experience, I never came across '86 hardtop FFR's with them fitted and on one of the units I served in that era we had two which I drove regularly. Your vehicle of course may have had a life upgrade.

Regards

Bob

Hi Andy,

Apologies, in my post above I gave you the wrong info :embarrassed:,

4m is 1 top, 1 middle, 2 bottom, see pic of the complete set, I have amended the incorrect post to avoid any confusion.

Regards

Bob

Thanks Bob, on investigation I think the top section is actually 649-8140. The confusion is whether a 4m HF antenna uses two middle sections or two bottom sections, there seems to be a difference of opinion and I can't find an official source of information. I only need 3m at the moment, so one of each section.

 

Andy

Andy,

The 4m is 2 bottom, 1 middle and 1 top, that's what came in my sealed poly bags.

This is the 3m fitted to my FFR Lwt;

Thanks Bob. There's an earlier thread here on HMVF that gives NSNs for the three sections, but I think it has the bottom and middle ones swapped.

 

Andy

Andy,

Middle section for HF is (630-8456) used as bottom section with top section 630-8457 (subsequently superseded by 649-8410 ) for 2 section VHF sets, bottom section for HF is 630-8455. Double up on middle section 8456 for 4m HF whip.

I think this is right.

Regards

Bob

I'm sure someone on here will know (probably Iain!) - if I'm putting a 3m HF antenna on a vehicle, does it use two of the normal bottom rods and one top, or something different entirely? And yes, I know it's a subtly different base to the usual VHF one.

 

Andy

Hi Andy,

I've got two sets of HF rods that came bagged as sets and without going to check, I think it's 2 bottom and one top.

I will check tomorrow if someone else (Iain?) doesn't come in with a definitive.

Regards

Bob

Hi Peter,

Now with lanyard fitted.........

The muzzle cover came from DS Solutions, expensive but worth every penny.

Regards

Bob

Hi Peter,

Pics of SLR arctic lanyard as promised.

Regards

Bob

Hi Peter and Skiprat,

Thanks to you both for the contacts,

Pics to follow shortly of the lanyard when I've dug it out, yesterday was a very good day as will become apparent shortly:D

Regards

Bob

Hi Peter,

You are a star Sir,

Thanks for taking the trouble for the pics, much appreciated. I last saw one of these 30 or more years ago.

Do you know of anywhere I can find one?

I have the arctic lanyard that went with the SLR version and was also used with the SMG version.

Regards

Bob

Hi All,

I'm looking for the hens teeth of the SMG world.

If anyone has one, first I would appreciate pics (I do know what it looks like from past memory) as I cannot find any anywhere.

Second, if anyone has a spare one prepared to let it go to a good home I will pay a very good price - please pm.

Also as an aside, if anyone has a No. 5 sight cramp they don't want, I will be interested in that too.

Regards

Bob

Hi

Can anyone help, I am after a plain green, 1970's/80's, pre woodland pattern, British Army cam net 9 x 11m or 11 x 11m.

Must be in good condition.

Regards

Bob

Any more news on this, out of interest?

 

Andy

Hi Andy,

On hold at the moment pending the Autumn as all time is being taken up restoring my '57 Narrow Track Sankey.

Will resume in due course, thanks for the interest.

Regards

Bob

Is this one of the ex Iraqi or Syrian jobs?, a lot went out there (and also to Spain, etc.), just wondering, I'm sure it can be traced. Maybe from eastern Europe too? Bulgaria and the likes.

You are right, it is on the PAK carriage as late war they tried to make them dual purpose with AP ammo but this was also a post war mod for flogging them to various countries.

Regards

Bob

Evening all,

 

im happy to say my IBMU is up and running!!!

 

first thing i did was test the 15v on the test pins and was getting around 2v ish, after reading about C26, C14 22uF 16V (Output of +15V & -15V module) i suspected these may be at fault. now ive replaced them and everything seems to be working.

 

good luck with yours bob but i suspect it could be the same two capacitors that need changing

That's fantastic news, very pleased for you. So then for VLo fault we should be saying these are the 2 to replace? At the moment I've a little long standing project half finished on the LWT, which will be finished this weekend. IBMU will be the next job which will be the spare to the gwo one installed in the vehicle. I also have plus 2 others (non working) as spares. I may later have a go at these to get them up and running.

Where did you get your tants from?

Regards

Bob

I've now sorted the "imagineered" Clansman installation for my Stolly, which has a PRC352 with TUAAM, Initiate Box, IBHA, IB3 and a pair of CB2s. If I plug a handset into the spare connector (SK1) on the 352, it will transmit and an SWR meter shows 20W forward power and 0W reverse, so the TUAAM is obviously doing its thing. However, if I try transmitting using a handset or pressel connected to the CB2s, the 352 doesn't transmit. It receives OK and the intercom function of the harness is working. Have I missed something obvious?

 

Andy

Hi Andy,

See this, it may help

http://www.ferret-afv.org/manuals/clansman_wiring_harness_and_control_boxes_description.pdf

Regards

Bob

Hi

This is the basic doc I have sourced my info from, I would love to know where it came from! The doc is basically a PM one against a specific repair this if that one, 'replace all listed and you wont have a problem' but I prefer to know what the fault codes are and the "field" repairs for them. Somewhere this info exists outside of Widney.

How do you know it's C26 & 14 on the PSU card?

Keep us informed, any info on these things is invaluable to us all.

Regards

Bob