andy brown

1 hour ago, Matt W said:

Milton was not an AVSD. There were no British tanks there. So yes, you are wrong..

What about all the other men involved? You seriously believe this could have been kept a secret?

What will you come up with next?

Wrong again oh dear 

Apart from the many references that are on line of the existence of Milton tanks in hunt for information in the outset of my waterbeach quest I came across an elderly gentleman who when demobbed from nation service went to work there he had a clutch of paperwork along with photographs and dated 51-52 he related that they would test tanks on the road through the village and see if they could do 360 degree spins at 30mph when they got past the allotments which now border the A10 and Milton road.one photograph of he and a co worker showed them standing on a tank that they ditched off the road trying out their 360s....also I've posted the pic of the tanks at Milton 1947 8 ,

2 hours ago, Matt W said:

So that's my take. Around a thousand men working for 4.2 months supported by British Railways. And only ONE remembers this!

52257Cbm of spoil to be disposed of somewhere in Waterbeach.

By the way, Elvington Airfield had a similar problem with water ingress when rebuilt by the USAF at the same time as Waterbeach. Granite wasn't used there either.

OH dear how wrong could I have been ? Let me see what.went wrong ?

Perhaps I didn't buy a number of tank I'd plates from a heap of approx 1400 the ones my father didn't chisel off of tanks I n1950 the same plates I didn't sell at Sotheby's I didn't get thrown out of national archives I didn't get a threat to lay off by Hammond not did I get a host of communications from him I didn't get into waterbeach I didn't search the place with gpr and use a digger ,I couldn't tell the difference between concrete and granite  I didn't post pics of Milton tanks my father was never at Milton or waterbeach nor were.the squddies who worked with him ever there ..certainly stirred the mud up at the bottom ot the pond haven't    And guess what the aprons are still ffiinn there.  Keep it coming .....

14 minutes ago, Ashcollection said:

Like i said in one of my earlier reply's, I've spoken to the MD of the comapny doing all the work, and he said he'd love to find all these tanks, it would make world wide news, and they could have put on on a plinth. but alas there aren't any.

I assume you refer to Andy branding of urban and civic that being Hammond's right hand man on site and at alchonbury  ,he was the first man I approached re the burials when urban civic alias at the time grant crest ,this was the first he heard of it but within a few days he and Hammond both had the same reply ( it's been checked it's been checked there is nothing there) nooow it hadn't been checked .

Now what is underway re development in the initial stages is window dressing it's just a small portion of the whole 300 hectares as yet still sucking in investors prior to building a complete new town .lord Hammond is no fool he wants big investors beyond his existing company 

Here we now have 

INNOVO Holdings ltd.

List of directors -: 

Teh Kate chi ling  sec;

Amaarri Abdlaziz Mohamed Saif binshafar ....Director UEA

Azmy Bshoy Director UEAa

Chen mei Fang  Director 

Gendy mariamedmad Azmy Director UEA

Hammond Philip Lord Director UK 

Maier juergen Wolfgang Director....

This is the in road to world banking and investment wha these people an d their contacts don't know isn't worth knowing 

They wouldnt  invest in anything that looked like it had a governmental problem everything has to be squeaky clean ,so no thanks no tanks .......

1 hour ago, paul connor said:

"Who are you to even question me?", well, who are you to suggest Oxford Archaeology as a professional commercial unit are lying with their GPR results? Who are you to question my fellow archaeologists interpretation of data, furthermore my own?

Who are you to post a single thread on a forum and disregard everyone who questions or provides answers and data? Even arguing with them and continually avoiding direct questions. Your posts are inconsistent and contradictory at best, bordering on the realms of fantasy with subjective interpretation of selective and dubious evidence.

I'm done. I wish you all the best, and hope that someday you find peace from this obsession, and stop bothering authorities and MPs with fantasy theories.

 

Unfortunately I got a little side tracked there for a while , but just for the record despite the objections waterbeach airfield main runway at the western end that area that was extended and widened to accommodate American bombers circa 1950 sits as I said on a bed of granite cobbles approx seven foot deep or thick ,never mind concrete pads ,cobbles !! Well this end of the runway has a problem ,the water table is approx eighteen inches below the runway surface ,I dug this area and landed up with a swimming pool ,obviously the sandy soil with that much water would not have supported the weight of the runway let alone a us bomber.

38 minutes ago, paul connor said:

Right, let's unpack this.

Firstly who allowed you access with an excavator onto the properly when you seemingly spend most of the time looking through the fence? Much experience with excavators, I'm guessing you have your ticket for that?

Secondly,  there is not packed granite on the site under the pads, you're in the realms of fantasy now. I've been supplied images of a sectional profile of the pads depth, as requested that OA undertake. 2 pours of concrete pads, pretty much standard. I've monitored works at three airfield and that's pretty normal. 

Normal practice for substrates for airfield runways and pads isn't granite. Shall I supply you the WD regulations concrete pads

I'm afraid commercial GPR isn't the kind you would hire easily. And I've seen the data from the site and it is far from inconsistent. If you're still not convinced I can arrange for you to likely attend a GPR course so you can gain further understanding? Maybe then you may realise that the data suggests there isn't vehicles under this section?

I guess next you'll suggest I'm a sleeper cell working for TNA and your local MP?

 

Ha ha ha.i dug holes all over that airfield who are you to even question me ? If you run back through this thread youll find a pic of a army digger I used in the tree plantations ,wake up ..I used up to date commercial gpr also a magnetometer and a whites 508 ,I even dug in the southern side plantations and found the foundations of a farm house along with Georgian land drain pipe work even working in the snow ,check the thread back and you'll find my gate and vehicle pass I had access for almost two years and there wasn't a square foot of that airfield I and my staffy dog hadn't walked on ,ps  my dog sat on the runway in the sun one day and refused to move when two Apache helicopters came in the crew ,were laughing their heads of when they eventually landed...getting in places is what makes it more of a challenge probably take after my father ......

13 hours ago, paul connor said:

Well, I must say I am impressed If he managed to bury tanks deeper than the GPR scan depth (>30m).

Furthermore, what did he do with the spoil; or were they shaking that out their trouser legs on the bypass each day so nobody found out?

 

One of the problems with gpr is that it is not that good at penetrating granite  ,something that was used to cover over the burials and crush in with an m6 ,I dug out a couple of areas of the western end of the main runway with a digger and again the whole.of that extended area of the runway sat on a severn foot thick bed of granite cobles ,just scrambles gpr ........ .

8 minutes ago, andy brown said:

Well I concede to your superior knowledge ..just shows you what a" lying tow rag Churchill was"

6 hours ago, Matt W said:

Absolutely, but it was a secret hole. 

Well I concede to your superior knowledge ..just shows you what a" lying tow rag Churchill was"

1 hour ago, paul connor said:

No vehicle is struck off census without documentation.

 

Well it just shows what a good job my father did in carrying out a now you see it to now you don't scam ,picked the right man didn't they .....but remember this the total number was 1400 units ...as for Russian invasion not very well red are we ..

1 hour ago, paul connor said:

I have just read through this somewhat drawn out thread, and thought I would interject.

 

Some of you are aware I have worked as a commercial archaeologist for many years, with a particular interest in the Wartime period. This has provided me with the opportunity to project manage and also attend as an archaeological specialist, many WW2 sites, including airfields, barracks and defence localities, both in the UK and EU.

 

My understanding of the thread is we are trying to locate 300+ buried armoured vehicles under a concrete pad section at a decommissioned airfield, at Waterbeach Barracks. The evidence for which is oral testimony and the mystery of the original poster being denied access to TNA (The National Archives) at Kew. Firstly, any burial of decommissioned armour would be well documented, especially at an airfield. There would be primary source evidence, although it is not as easy as heading to TNA and asking for ‘buried tanks at Waterbeach’; although I am very confident that if this was a true event it will have archive files. I shall not even elaborate on the unlikely necessity to bury valuable assets, that is quite obvious.

 

Now I shall add my quick personal investigation, which might add light to this subject. I telephoned an old colleague who is a senior archaeologist at Oxford Archaeology that was working on the Waterbeach Barracks project and asked a few questions. I asked for the results of MAG/RES/GPR survey of the area, including the area from the aerial photograph provided by the poster with ‘tanks’ annotated on the image. Unfortunately, they present no evidence for any buried, large, vehicle-like data at all. They do however have an abundance of Bronze Age and Roman archaeology, and other interesting periods, including WW2, just no tanks I am afraid.

 

So, not sure where you go from there? Archaeological evidence suggests otherwise.

Regards

Paul

Thanks for your input Paul ,you may not know where I'm going from here but more importantly I do ..

Question did your associates dig up the aprons ...don't think so do you ...cause they are not on the airfield as such they they are in the confines of the barracks ,so no flint axes there ,

Hammond spent half a live kissing babies to get where he is today and isn't going to let the likes of me upset his master plan..

He knows he has a problem with me seen by the lengths he has gone to in blocking me ...I shouldn't worry if I were you they are still there safe and sound under two thousand tons of concrete and will be until lord Hammond decides to cash his chips in ....

1 minute ago, andy brown said:

Thank you ruxy , may I extend the same to you....

This may seem Ive wandered away from the direction of the burials but while Milton is in the frame I would like to elaborate on my father's description of what was there and why all of which was supported by the pics that I came across around 2016 ,yes the pics are crap but there is enough in them to be able to follow the description which had nothing to do with the waterbeach tanks parked on the site ,in the fore ground of the second pic there are the black nissan huts behind which you may be able to see left to right five light coloured blocks of vehicles and the same again on the left hand end of the nissan huts ,they are buffalo part of a build up of ordinance orchestrated by the then Labour government in expectation of a Russian invasion ,buffalo well if the Russian came it was considered that it would be via the Norfolk Suffolk coast a large area to defend ,the one advantage regarding defense was it was flat and had a lot of water so it followed that if one blew the sea locks and dykes that drained or controlled the water level of the broad then seventy percent of those two counties would be flooded the remaining thirty percent would have been above the five metre contour a level upon which many of the season villages we built  here the tanks would be buried up to the turret in as near as possible to three overlapping arcs across both counties ,hence the buffalo .

1 hour ago, ruxy said:

Happy New Year for 2023 ,,

Thank you ruxy , may I extend the same to you....

2 hours ago, Matt W said:

Churchills in a US Army depot? Blank spaces - how do you know tanks were parked there? 

2 hours ago, Matt W said:

Churchills in a US Army depot? Blank spaces - how do you know tanks were parked there? 

Hardly worth answering this one !!! If you read it from the start you would have seen I said post war ........and dependent on how good your eye sight is as wether or not your going to see anything in either of the pics the buildings were auctioned off late forties site operated by reme fvrd until mid fifties ..Milton was where my father was billeted and these photos match his description of the site ...

1 hour ago, andy brown said:

This high altitude pic is of us army supply depot Milton cambs which incorporates a barracks POW camp and rail head taken post ww2 ,it also held an array of armoured vehicles as follows in next pic.

Sorry upside down ,,this is the foreground of the first pic adjacent to the Milton high Street which runs north to south beyond the black nissan huts you might be able to make out the rough shapes of the tanks parked  Also the amount of blank spaces where tanks had recently been removed to waterbeach which is a couple of miles north ,in the very fore ground on the axis road there are a couple of what appear to be Mac transporters behind which are three tanks presumably about to be shipped to waterbeach . I was surprised to also see another example that my father had mentioned in this picture relating to a panic situation within the government of the day .....

This high altitude pic is of us army supply depot Milton cambs which incorporates a barracks POW camp and rail head taken post ww2 ,it also held an array of armoured vehicles as follows in next pic.

1 hour ago, andy brown said:

Hi it's been some time since my last visit here during which time I've mulled over whether or not to continue , in part because originally I came looking to add to what I had not necessarily to through open what my father had told me of the waterbeach issue ,I will admit that I was fore warned by a member of the forum some ten years ago that to offer up what I had would he considered.be suicidal as getting the old hands to swallow it would be seen as akin to treason and as it turned out he was right .so I figured that as.ive come this far and had not gained one iota of additional info to add to what I have then this must be virgin territory that I'm walking around with , if what I've said so far has been hard to swallow expanding on it will no doubt cause seizures but I will try to put some flesh on the bones that you can get your teeth into ,. Could be a long haul ...to be continued.......

On 11/27/2022 at 10:58 AM, andy brown said:

Thanks for your input ruxy , trouble is one can get sucked in when entering into.to the world of beuractic bun fights and land up with the will to live, not that I'm questioning your suggestion it's more to do with what I 'd found in an earlier attempt at a environmental tack .. few years back contacted Cambridge urban district  council environmental officer laying out what I thought to be of interest regarding a burial of this nature ,.initially they couldn't accept or get their head round what I was talking about ,so I left.it for a while ,seeing a local councillor had been or was engaged in things environmental ,, well more relating to tractors running over grass hoppers as you would expect in a rural village,once he got the thread of where this was going he clammed up and backed away ,some months later.i contacted udc environmental officer only to find that the probability of environment all damage in the midst of their village as I had proposed to them earlier they thought was not in their interest to pursue so they had decided to hand over my information to none other than the construction company urban and civic headed by my old friend the not so right honourable Phillip Hammond esquire he at the time defense minister , later found association between various council members ,udc ,and environmental dept ,ironically they as a village haven't the faintest idea of what is about to befall them ,of course the construction co.wants to keep them on side they on the other hand expect great things to come of this new town and its financial advantages ,but I know Hammond and his cohorts of accountants ,so my latest thought on the issue just to jog it along was a couple of gallon of petrol down the cuts they recently made in the aprons leave it to soak in for couple of hours light blue touch paper retire half a mile away ,soon see if anything combustible is in there .......

Hi it's been some time since my last visit here during which time I've mulled over whether or not to continue , in part because originally I came looking to add to what I had not necessarily to through open what my father had told me of the waterbeach issue ,I will admit that I was fore warned by a member of the forum some ten years ago that to offer up what I had would he considered.be suicidal as getting the old hands to swallow it would be seen as akin to treason and as it turned out he was right .so I figured that as.ive come this far and had not gained one iota of additional info to add to what I have then this must be virgin territory that I'm walking around with , if what I've said so far has been hard to swallow expanding on it will no doubt cause seizures but I will try to put some flesh on the bones that you can get your teeth into ,. Could be a long haul ...to be continued.......

On 11/27/2022 at 10:58 AM, andy brown said:

Thanks for your input ruxy , trouble is one can get sucked in when entering into.to the world of beuractic bun fights and land up with the will to live, not that I'm questioning your suggestion it's more to do with what I 'd found in an earlier attempt at a environmental tack .. few years back contacted Cambridge urban district  council environmental officer laying out what I thought to be of interest regarding a burial of this nature ,.initially they couldn't accept or get their head round what I was talking about ,so I left.it for a while ,seeing a local councillor had been or was engaged in things environmental ,, well more relating to tractors running over grass hoppers as you would expect in a rural village,once he got the thread of where this was going he clammed up and backed away ,some months later.i contacted udc environmental officer only to find that the probability of environment all damage in the midst of their village as I had proposed to them earlier they thought was not in their interest to pursue so they had decided to hand over my information to none other than the construction company urban and civic headed by my old friend the not so right honourable Phillip Hammond esquire he at the time defense minister , later found association between various council members ,udc ,and environmental dept ,ironically they as a village haven't the faintest idea of what is about to befall them ,of course the construction co.wants to keep them on side they on the other hand expect great things to come of this new town and its financial advantages ,but I know Hammond and his cohorts of accountants ,so my latest thought on the issue just to jog it along was a couple of gallon of petrol down the cuts they recently made in the aprons leave it to soak in for couple of hours light blue touch paper retire half a mile away ,soon see if anything combustible is in there .......

On 11/25/2022 at 5:13 PM, ruxy said:

I have no intention of reading through this thread , to revise your environmental concerns.  Just wondered - have you ever used a EIR  (environmental information request)  , under the Environmental Information Regulations.  This was forced on UK by EEC and I think it is still on the statute book.   Operates similar to  FOIR  (freedom of information request).  Phrase your enquiry(s) just right and you can cause the 'authorities' some grief totally  £ f.o.c.  until they hit a search costs limit and then they will invoice before supply.

Thanks for your input ruxy , trouble is one can get sucked in when entering into.to the world of beuractic bun fights and land up with the will to live, not that I'm questioning your suggestion it's more to do with what I 'd found in an earlier attempt at a environmental tack .. few years back contacted Cambridge urban district  council environmental officer laying out what I thought to be of interest regarding a burial of this nature ,.initially they couldn't accept or get their head round what I was talking about ,so I left.it for a while ,seeing a local councillor had been or was engaged in things environmental ,, well more relating to tractors running over grass hoppers as you would expect in a rural village,once he got the thread of where this was going he clammed up and backed away ,some months later.i contacted udc environmental officer only to find that the probability of environment all damage in the midst of their village as I had proposed to them earlier they thought was not in their interest to pursue so they had decided to hand over my information to none other than the construction company urban and civic headed by my old friend the not so right honourable Phillip Hammond esquire he at the time defense minister , later found association between various council members ,udc ,and environmental dept ,ironically they as a village haven't the faintest idea of what is about to befall them ,of course the construction co.wants to keep them on side they on the other hand expect great things to come of this new town and its financial advantages ,but I know Hammond and his cohorts of accountants ,so my latest thought on the issue just to jog it along was a couple of gallon of petrol down the cuts they recently made in the aprons leave it to soak in for couple of hours light blue touch paper retire half a mile away ,soon see if anything combustible is in there .......

30 minutes ago, john1950 said:

All of the experts said a certain Roman emperor did not exist now they are having to eat their words.

Thanks for the supportive comments, it does get a bit lonely out here, it's like wandering around a well guarded bastion all on your own trying to find it's weak point when you only got one cannon ball.

On 9/15/2022 at 4:23 PM, andy brown said:

Hi again 

One of the reasons I came to the forum was a vague chance that airing what I had might have jogged someone's memory no matter how small , but some how this seems to stick in people's craw , I'm not trying to convince anybody and yes 326 tanks is a lot to understand and I would agree that it sounds highly unlikely ,but now isn't then ,my father had been in the mob or indirectly connected to it for someone twenty seven years ,that's a long time when for the greater part as he said ( I was trained to kill people in the king's name in places I didn't know existed when I'd finished there I was sent to another place that I didn't know existed and I did the same again but I never saw the king ) you see in his world he obeyed orders he knew nothing else ..  so he was reliable got the job done and moved on , buried tanks.was another order he would not have said a word its just another order, all I had was his word that he buried them and a map on a fag packet how many how deep ,as for the cuts in the concrete well strange they should be on my co-ordinates isn't it ?

Just an update ..recently decided to contact mod site management of waterbeach barracks just to show I was still around not with any great expectation of getting a reply relating to words such as burial, couple of days ago received email from same inviting me to speak to there office who would only be to glad. to bring me up to date with their construction  progress on site .. no more than I expected .as any hint relating to my question would have been an acknowledgement of my.claim ,but then how would you feel.if when selling your house someone bubblled it to prospective buyers that the property sat on the edge of a hidden sink hole ...no doubt the construction co will carry on regardless an leave this area for the mod to attend to ,in any  event this is a vast site and the burial area is not in the way in the foreseeable future so the mod can sit on their hand for some time yet.....

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5 hours ago, Ashcollection said:

Cutting trenches across the runways and hard standings would probably been to make sure the explosive pipe charges had been removed, often fitted just in case the cold war turned hot and we had to destroy runways to prevent their use. probably not on your information, as to be honest other than conspiracy theories you haven't actually given any information yet.

Hi again 

One of the reasons I came to the forum was a vague chance that airing what I had might have jogged someone's memory no matter how small , but some how this seems to stick in people's craw , I'm not trying to convince anybody and yes 326 tanks is a lot to understand and I would agree that it sounds highly unlikely ,but now isn't then ,my father had been in the mob or indirectly connected to it for someone twenty seven years ,that's a long time when for the greater part as he said ( I was trained to kill people in the king's name in places I didn't know existed when I'd finished there I was sent to another place that I didn't know existed and I did the same again but I never saw the king ) you see in his world he obeyed orders he knew nothing else ..  so he was reliable got the job done and moved on , buried tanks.was another order he would not have said a word its just another order, all I had was his word that he buried them and a map on a fag packet how many how deep ,as for the cuts in the concrete well strange they should be on my co-ordinates isn't it ?

On 9/5/2022 at 10:30 AM, andy brown said:

Life is a strange old lot isn't it ? You get so use to having all of your apples tipped of the cart your lost for words when someone comes along and starts putting them back..

Yes there is so much I haven't said there is so much I am I'll advised to say ,I had no idea at the outset as to what I was to be confronted with ,the deeper I dug the greater resistance I encounter.but ones ignorance of what goes on behind the scenes the who's, the whys,means your trying to open doors that nobody wants you to open .....All I can say is that this is vast not in just burial or "s" but implications past and present.......

Meekumsir has encapsulated a raft of reasons that highlight just why you can't open the doors ,the hidden fear of allowing the truth out of the box, and what it cost, ironically most of the guardians of these historic ( criminal offences) haven't the faintest idea what's in the box or even where it is ,only you can open it .........

Just to clarify an earlier statement I made re opening the burial concrete and the concrete from the same period which extended the width of the runway , some may have misconstrued this as in (the dug down ) to some depth ,in fact it was only the concrete that was broken through In a channel form across the width of the concrete in question ,in fact if you Goole map it you will see only the concrete spoil lays along side the shallow trench . There is probably two to three foot of hardcore to go before the spares would show and approx three more ft before you reach the tanks ..

It crossed my mind that these trenches were cut just to evacuate the volatile atmosphere within . The fact that the runway trenches were cut would appear that they were working on my information and not something they had discovered since I had informed them of the burial and it's whereabouts ten years ago....if they found such info they would have known there was nothing under the runway extensions, which means they are in for a shock when they start digging in certain areas that if they had played ball in the first place i might have mentioned .........

5 hours ago, Meekumslr said:

I don’t know about Waterbeach but I do know about a site near to me, which has the same dodgy history, with a huge amount of buried vehicles, munitions and even biological vials.

I’d love to know the truth behind the Royal Arsenal, Woolwich, London and the stuff buried there (yes, I do know people who saw the vast underground storage of vehicles as well as buried tanks).

I also know those involved in land surveys for the building of Thamesmead and HMP Belmarsh (prison) on top of biochemical test facilities, who chose to shove soil and concrete down them rather than decontaminate them.

so, although many are wondering what the big deal and secrecy is surrounding the burial of WW2 stuff, in the years just after the war, an amazing amount of stuff was buried and wasn’t of great importance in the 1950s but it is now, because they’d rather the land NOT be contaminated.

The whole point now is not the secrecy of tanks, but the lack of decontamination before building new housing projects on seriously contaminated land…. And when I say contaminated, I mean the worst kind of stuff imaginable.

unlike Andy, I don’t have the time to unearth the skullduggery, backhanders over land acquisition, failure to decontaminate after regrettable ‘burials’ etc, but don’t forget, burying vehicles may not be the greatest conspiracy in the world but what they could have put in a sealed tank may be!

some people have asked why they weren’t simply scrapped? Well there’s your answer. You don’t get rid of dangerous unwanted nasties by just burying it because of the water table which rises and falls. You make sure it’s in a ‘container’.

Ive lived near the site all my life and lost count of the horror stories from people who were there,  of ‘buried treasures’. It’s true, they are treasures now, but they weren’t then…. And they are buried for a damn good reason.

like Andy, I wouldn’t just come out with the complete story as huge investments are involved and many powerful people too. I think we all realise that if you upset the wrong people, they’ll let you know.

Life is a strange old lot isn't it ? You get so use to having all of your apples tipped of the cart your lost for words when someone comes along and starts putting them back..

Yes there is so much I haven't said there is so much I am I'll advised to say ,I had no idea at the outset as to what I was to be confronted with ,the deeper I dug the greater resistance I encounter.but ones ignorance of what goes on behind the scenes the who's, the whys,means your trying to open doors that nobody wants you to open .....All I can say is that this is vast not in just burial or "s" but implications past and present.......

Meekumsir has encapsulated a raft of reasons that highlight just why you can't open the doors ,the hidden fear of allowing the truth out of the box, and what it cost, ironically most of the guardians of these historic ( criminal offences) haven't the faintest idea what's in the box or even where it is ,only you can open it .........

8 minutes ago, andy brown said:

I can't recall saying they didn't find anything!! The object of my writing to them was to promote a reply ,which as yet has not arrived , the idea that they have not found anything only comes from your view of the world that would be rather than the world as it is...why would they commit to answer any question ? far better to pull a version of the fifth amendment (be non committal say nowt) that leaves the question dead in the water and no headway is made by the inquisitor (stalemate) 

Do you honestly think that these people or person would forgo their closed shop investors only strategy in favour of a big heap of scrap metal far better to leave it till you've made what you came for and leave the rest to the mod to sort out ,these people lie and lye low they have never relished getting their hands dirty,..

Near to the area where I live is the most expensive property market in the UK 

Had't to break off there for a cuppa.....for those that do not know ,a point of interest we have Wentworth golf course ,Ascot ,st. georges hill, Windsor great park ,this is all money ,Russians and Arabs ,with their hidden assets, it follows that there is a waiting list for property ,one such prime target again mod was the chobham tank factory so secret it was not featured on any ordinance survey map just hidden surrounded by conifers,thats now part of a complex of top end 1500 unaffordable desirable properties just as exclusive as the tank factory was ,further sout by a few miles was the royal logistics museum in mytchett a relatively new building again in much sort after area ,now moved and replaced with you guessed top of the range housing, then there was the reme museum at arborfield now pushed out to the wilds of Wilshire again with unaffordable stock starting at upwards of two million each ,all of these with one common denominator crest Nicholson aka Mr Hammond...you can throw in another dozen ex mod sites all down to this man's portfolio..and you worry about tanks ,wouldn't suprice me if they pumped two thousand tons of liquid concrete into the weterbeach burial and forgot about it ....