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  1. The Model has now been sold thanks to all who have viewed this topic.
  2. Adding a couple more pictures to show the the hand built quality of this model and the hours that must have been invested while building this one of a kind.
  3. This is an all alloy metal model, approx 1:5 scale weighing around 200kg was built during the early 70's to develope the Mk3/Mk5 Chieftain at Chertsey (MVEE) MOD. A custom built one off, accurate model 148cm length x 69cm x width 62cm . Length with gun foward approx 210cm, Nut and bolt (imperial BA) construction, using unique castings, working Horstmann suspension units, stainless steel sprockets and alloy tracks. This was a quality professional build. (not an apprentice model) It is believed it was used for some investigation trials, but I think was squirreled away when it's gear
  4. The Enigma concluded. From the man who wrote about the Chertsey military proving ground, The Tank Factory ISBN 978-0-7509-6122-6. The model was a radar signature model one of a kind. The book was very informative capturing life and times of British military proving ground. Sadly now gone making way for a motion picture studio. From his own description. I believe it was built for developing radar systems. There is a one to one relationship between the model size and the radar frequency and so you could test a 1/5 scale model with a radar 5x the frequency and get equivalent results. Th
  5. Hi I have managed to chat with William Suttie author of The Tank Factory, He describes the model as highly detailed Radar Signature model used to develop Dopple radar signatures. I can endorse the book as very good read, obviously a lot of work and invention is still secret stuff but the book itself covers and outlines events in British tank early development to the last days at Chertsey from the "man on the grounds" point of view. Some of the development area's not widely know, although the site is closed to military development this book is a lasting description of the kind of things our m
  6. Well that was a scary conversation, I suppose we've seen the golden age of Tank building in this country. I guess a similar dialog was run during the 1920's with Vickers (private contractor) and some back yard inventers developing our only other armoured equipment. Government's now and then praying they won't need to buy and keep them, lets hope there are no more despots waiting for their chance to catch us out again. Still, we l have the Nukes unless some fanciful nincompoop decides we don't need those anymore too. These days self proclaimed important people get paid a lot of money fo
  7. Hi Nick One wonders where the next home grown MTB is going to come from when all the expertise, building and testing facilities have gone?
  8. Hi I've just finished reading The Tank factory by William Suttie, it describes the Chertsey reserch centre over 30 years before its closure. I found the book very good and was reminded of my past as an appentice during the 70's with the CEGB. The dry humour brought a smile as he describes History, development, departmental interconnection and the giving of trophies to those who thought they'd covered up their cockups at the end of the year at the Christmas do. I have been trying to find out about a model Chieftain tank (1/5 scale) that was possibly built there, to try and find out what i
  9. Hi All The kind gentleman Brucie, forwarded me this picture of the model dated from the late 1970's which mensioned earlier. On the back it is stamped British Aero Dynamics Industies based in Bristol. Why the model is in the middle of a field and what the model is being used for is still a mystery. The connection with the Aero industry might shed light on the quality of the build of the and a possible connection to MVEE. If Antar could get back to me with details of the show at Heywood, I'd love to attend on the Sunday and maybe take another picture with it's bigger brother. John
  10. Hi Robin I did my best not to change too much of the model when motorising the Chieftain. There is some fine detail in places but in other areas it is quite crude. Outwardly I want to keep it original. I'd like to find some pictures of the model when she was used for what she was built for, what ever that was. My lnterest in tanks begins with memory's from great war films, the beginning of Kelly's Hero's, a Tiger in the rain for me is unsurpassed. One of the strongest memory's is the bunker scene from The battle of the bulge. The big metal coloured tank model is impressive. So the Che
  11. Hi to all Firstly thank you for the invite to Haywood Manchester, I have to work that weekend, but will try for a shift swop. I'd love to get a close up with the real deal. The Chieftain is fully mobile, converting it with the biggest wheel chair motors I could find and fit, The beauty of which if there is any motive failure you can always take the motors out of gear and push it. I think you may be right Brucie, I've just seen your Avitar, fantastic. Have you got a larger picture I could see, where did it come from and when? The original picture in picture from the start of t
  12. Hi to all Thankyou all for your time and input, I think that the model Chieftain being around for almost 45 years, may have played many parts in her time, in short durations. Anyone of the one of the ideas described could be true, before being tucked away when a new project came along. The apprentice idea really sounds good, but I would have thought for a model of this size, would have had more detailed work done to her other than the odd areas, cupola, louver vents and gun crutch. I have seen some of their models and they do go to town on them with high levels of detail. There was even a
  13. Hi I don't know about the blue goose but that is certainly is a fine looking car, even has the fashionable flat coloured paint. Sounds like the 540k was the team favourite. (my own favourite was the G5 but a bit of a pig to drive I have read) I have a 1/5 scale model 540K in black which is remarkably good even though it is built from cheap plastics and has some questionable electronics in it. My Grandad (MP corporal) with a MP sergent commandeered a staff car from leading politican in Germany (Hamberg) just after the war, the sergent went on to keep the car for a while, my grandad had the p
  14. Hi I really love this forum, for once I can put decent sized pictures on without problems a rising due to size and format. Love the ideas coming in radar recognition, paint test piece, apprentice piece, but surely the cost of her must have been an arm and leg. In todays money I guess she would cost over £15k to put together. One off castings costs a small fortune to make, some of her is as much as an inch thick cast alloy. Track, tensioners, suspension units, road wheels, armour, gearbox and motor mount, all cast. As for an apprentice model, there's too much casting, a hell of a lot of m
  15. Hi Could not help seeing your thread on a large scale Centurion. Armortek did build a 1/6 scale model two years ago which was very nice. The tank kits are usually produced in batches depending on a calculated demand. ie 101x King Tiger's on the first batch, 50x Comet's on their first batch, repeated batches depend on worldwide demand. If you can afford one, I can only say they are beautiful models. Not sure how many Centurions were built by Armortek, guess 50, but here's one that was put up for sale recently. One was converted to working a bridge layer, looked and worked excellent,
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