cossy1

There are many many private owners of horse boxes, large caravans, racing car transporters, classic plant transporters and other privately owned HGV-type vehicles out there who would be very pleased if someone could come up with a cast iron argument supporting what you say so please let us know the chapter and verse supporting your view. As previously stated, the 11th April 2007 changes removed loads of exemptions from tacho use including that for privately owned HGVs.

 

As for VOSA supplying dubious info, it wouldn't be the first time. If that happens again try to get the person's name and ask them for written confirmation of what has been discussed. It won't help in court but it's the basis of an argument that you were duly diligent in your research.

 

- MG

Just a update vosa have now confirmed in a email that the DAF requires a taco and reading the email we think a speed limiter aswell.

Chances are you would have to fit a digital tacho, dont know whether you can still get analogue ones

I will admit I was wrong in a previous post about it being exempt

Have had another look at the rules and cant see a way out for aDAF 4 tonner

Thanks to you all for your input , will have to have a re think . By the way called vosa on the matter who inform us that due to private Hgv no tacho required . Duffy info from the experts .

regards Tony

Hi,

 

I believe you are being wrongly advised here. This all changed on 11th April 2007 when new EU rules were adopted. Lots of the concessions for Private HGVs were rescinded.

 

Assuming it is a cargo-bodied truck and is plated as being over 7.5 tonnes gross weight it requires a 2-yearly calibrated tacho and you have to use it. You must keep your old tachos as per the rules and you also have to conform to drivers' hours. This is regardless of whether or not your use is private. You are running an HGV and apart from the VED status of 'Private HGV' all other rules apply. You do not require a CPC or Operator's License if not running commercially.

 

There is plenty of info about this all over the internet but make sure you are looking at vehicles over 7.5 as this is the cut-off point where the rules change.

 

One of our group was stopped in our Private HGV truck by VOSA who went through our old tachos and gave him an all-clear, so they CAN AND DO check private vehicles.

 

The so-called '60 mile' rule does not apply to vehicles over 7.5t GVW.

 

Regards - Mike

hi mike thanks for the info which I think is correct. So the only way round this is to fit it out as a motor caravan or down rate to 7.5 tons to avoid fitting a tachograph ?

HI

i have looked at the exemption form and can not see we're a vehicle over 7.50 ton is exempt apart from the 60 miles exemption ?

regards Tony

Hi just looked at vosa form 75 dated Jan 2010 it has 29 reason not to have a tachograph but not one seams to fit the DAF ? Can not see a 60 mile rule everythink is in kilometres ? Form 75 is the form you need to present at the test centre when taking it for its first test .

If the vehicle is used privately and not in conjunction with a trade or business then no tacho is required as there is no need to record drivers hours

HI

i have looked at the exemption form and can not see we're a vehicle over 7.50 ton is exempt apart from the 60 miles exemption ?

regards Tony

I had a daf for a while and the way I understood it you were exempt from a tacho as private hgv as long as you don't go 60 miles from your home base, which makes sense as it would be hard to exceed your driving hours on a short journey. there is also a rolling 25 year exemption but most dafs are 91 onwards so not applicable until 2016 which is a long time to be looking over your shoulder for the vosa guys.

I sold the daf and will buy a tm which will come under the 25 year rule, plus it has an 8 ton load capacity with a gross train of 24 ton.

 

rick

 

ps. I have a daf I am selling / breaking if you need any parts.

hi Rick

so the only way to get a exemption is the the 60 mile rule .? Motor caravan is out of the question at the moment as the DAF is a cargo canvas variant. So not going to get away with that. Still looking for a box body anybody has one got one for sale . Have you got a working speedo and the Center seat that folds down? And also Is it easy to down rate a DAF to 7.5 ton ?

Regards tony

Hi all it's probably been on the forum before but is a DAF 4 ton used as a private Hgv exempt a tachograph ,

And if so which form is used.

Regards Tony.

Hello everyone,

Firstly thanks for taking the time to read my rambling's, I am often described as many uncomplimentary things, so my choice in green machines may well suit me, but what I am looking to find out is how many RB44's are in use today , I actually think they are overshadowed by a bad reputation , and before the hellfire starts , no mine has good brakes ! Maybe a case of book judged by cover ? But comments and feedback welcomed .

Mines of to MOT prep then in for its first test in the next couple of weeks , fingers crossed should be on the road soon

Hi Tony, I use RH Insurance who advertise widely in classic press and also military mags, I have been with them years and have had NOTHING but first class service. They are happy to insure vehicles away from the home address provided they are in secure storage and also do multi vehicle policies. I have no connection with them whatsoever apart from being a satisfied customer.

thanks for the tip all sorted 3 vehicles parked in the barracks , also got recovery for a great price. Just got to get the RB a test at Vosa now wish me luck.

Regards Tony

Footman James I have my Ferret and RB44 on the policy and they are insured for where I park them at the farm and at home.

with footman James at the moment they will only let me park the Rb at different address and then I have to visit it every day !!

Hi all.

my insurance is due for renewal , but I have 3 vehicles now, trying to get a policy that allows me to park my vehicles in secure parking away from my home approx 5 miles . Any one know of a company that will insure on a multi policy. Champ and ferret are registed ! Rb on chassis number for (approx 4 weeks till registed) away from home address and recovery would be a added bonus. Any advice would be appreciated .

thank Tony

According to the club website, "it is to be announced".

The tab for the national show has been removed, not having one this year ?

Tony here you are.

 

No NSN quoted but B16293 matches to 2540-99-904-3814

 

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]85917[/ATTACH]

 

 

[ATTACH=CONFIG]85916[/ATTACH]

Thank you very much.

Tony I have got the parts book 2320-H-104-711

 

Trouble is that it is on fiche & my fiche reader won't light up, so bear with me.

Thank you

Hi All

Anyone had any joy with the part number ?

Hi all.

i am after the Nsn for the rear offside tool bin for a layland DAF 4 ton GS , can anyone help?

Regards Tony

Thread title now showing in index as DAF.

Thanks for that need to read before submitting.

thanks for the info , are they still applying the rule that it must look like a camper van on the outside?

which will be a struggle with a DAF.[/

my Leyland Daf 4 tonner was registered as a motor caravan in October 2010, it has a radio repair body fitted with a small, roughly a foot square, window towards the top on each side, and the relevant vents for the fridge & cooker which are painted NATO green to match the body. The criteria to fulfil to allow your Daf to be registered as a motor caravan are; a fixed bed or fixed seating that may be converted into a bed, a table ( this can be removeable), fixed cooking and washing facilities, fixed storage facilities. I scrapped our caravan and used all the fittings except the shower from that.

There are a couple of photos of my Leyland Daf in the Tank Museum MVT Day 22/9/12 thread so you can see tat it doesn't look like a typical camper.

Thanks for the reply , can you tell wot class of mot you have for the DAF?

If You intend registering the DAF as a motorhome you will also have to supply lots of photogaraphs of the camper conversion to convince DVLA it meets the criteria, they may want to inspect it

Info here..http://www.campervanlife.com/building/legal

thanks for the info , are they still applying the rule that it must look like a camper van on the outside?

which will be a struggle with a DAF.

Hi

can any tell the forms that are required to register a daf 4 ton with a box body that is converted as a camper .

regards Tony

Happy new year to you all.

Predictive text should be DAF not DAD

Hi

can any tell the forms that are required to register a daf 4 ton with a box body that is converted as a camper .

regards Tony

Happy new year to you all.

Clive,

 

My understanding is that the National Show title has been dropped for any show this year.

 

Tim

Wicksteed at War

Show director

Is there any good reason why such a large national club like the MVT are not holding a annual show? I have attended the last two national show which were excellent and really showcased are hobby.

Regards Tony

Hi all

looking at buying a RB44 with coms box fitted , it has 4 battery's in the side bin . Does anyone know the function of the battery's , wot do they power volt ect ect . Any info on power set up would be of help, looking at converting the box in to living accommodation

Regards tony

I would have thought that it would be at Wickstead again.

I was at Evesham the year before which was a better attended show could be due to the fact that the champ club had its annual gathering , but when traveling from the the Wirral it's as long as it is broad.

Regards Tony

Any one have any info when the Mvt national show will be next year and location ?