Catch 22 LBDR

I found my master cylinder banjo bolt burred in a box of rusty Quad bolts. It is a bit pitted and where I am sure it will work fine I would still like to replace it. Does anyone have one?

Any of the items listed still for sale?

How is this restoration coming on?

Hi all, it must be Quad season...

 

Having lurked around the forum for a few weeks, it was time to "come out" as I've recently acquired a Mk-2 Morris C8 Quad.

 

Looking forward to getting my teeth into it (possibly literally, on the electrics) and first job will be some form of roof & bodywork - the domestic goddess has not granted blessing & boon on this particular project... :blush:

 

Saying "but it's sooo much smaller and practical that a steam loco - and we can take the whole family to War & Peace in it" was apparently a mistake. Perhaps the "but it's 4-wheel drive and can get the kids to school in bad weather" didn't help.

 

There are a lot of experienced folk here on the forum - I am really looking forward to your sage advice and assistance.

Pictures!

Hi fellow members, its been a while since I was on the forum so I stopped in to see what has turned up and saw this thread. I could not believe that you were talking about what I just found. I saw a limber 40 years ago and we could not move it as it was so heavy and we only had a 6foot by 4foot box trailer. It was left sitting in waist high grass behind a old searing shed and it still had the wicker baskets in it. Time pasted and I moved from Sydney to the city of Bathurst New South Wales and took a job as a guide at the local museum. Three months ago a guy came in asking questions about old houses and I asked which was his and to my surprise he now owns the old property that the limber was sitting on. I asked if it was still there and he said yes so I pushed a bit more and said what are you going to do with it and comes out with if you want it come and get it for free but its not the best of condition. Two days ago we went out with a car trailer and a crane and picked it up or what was left of it so here are some photos of what I have on my trailer.

Hi, i'm sooooooo jealous. I don't suppose this item is for sale? .

Is there any chance you could p.m me some detailed photograph's and maybe some dimensions from you?

Regards

Ross

I put the wheels back on today. I also assembled and fitted the Brake master cylinder.

I got the master cylinder repair kit on ebay. Mixed feelings about the kit. It was listed as a C8 compatible part and it came from south America. It came a lot faster than I had expected (about 10 days) and it included the piston. However the "stop" washer and circlip were very flimsy and were too small so I had to reuse the old washer and get a new circlip for it. It also came with an extra rubber washer that I have know idea what it is for. It was about 4mm thick and the same diameter as the bore of the cylinder and it had a small hole in the centre, about 3 or 4mm. I can only guess that the kit can also be used in other cylinders and that is what the part is for. I didn't fit it on my one so I hope it stops! :nut:

Does any one have a spare banjo bolt for the back of the master cylinder, I am also missing the drain bung, also on the back of the cylinder?

battery went flat on the phone so no pictures this week. :computerrage:

Hi Guys. Can any one help me out with some pictures of the clocks in the dash. I am trying to source the correct clocks but more often than not I need a visual comparison to compare to.

Speedomoter head, Smiths "FA" non-trip, back drive.

Oil pressure Gauge. Smiths X.20847 "Pointer" or Tomey's "Eureka".

Ammeter. Lucas BM type L

Thanks Ross

Re painted the wheels and painted the front body frame work. I am Wattling for the dash panel to come back from the welder, it's too light for me to repair. I will put the wheels back on it next week and hopeful fit the dash and floor panel's too. I should have some more pictures up hear soon:D

Exactly the kind of pictures I was looking for, only wrong radios. Thanks anyway:(

Any pictures of how the radio was fitted. Have found little or no info on this so far. Thanks Ross

This is not a no29 18 PDR limber ,most limbers are loaded from the rear and not over the draft pole,the exceptions are the French 75 limber and the 4.5 limber.I should think the one you mention is that of the French 75.

I do own a no29 limber so know this item inside out.

Good luck with you project.

 

Rob............rnixartillery

Hi Rob,I would say that the Irish limbers were heavily modified to suit what ever guns they had at that time, and there have bean quite a few. Including the French 75 and the 4.5. If the one I saw (that they are calling an 18 pdr limber) is in fact a 75 limber then there is a good chance that no genuine No 29 limbers have survived, but I will look into it some more.

Is there any chance I could get some dimensions/drawings of your limber please?:-D

Thanks Ross

Ross,

 

The difference between the Irish and British conversion was the addition of a steel constructed box very crudely riveted over the top of the original wooden foot board which contained the wheel brace and jack and a spare wheel bracket on the top of the limber box.

The Martin parry conversion kits were supplied to 'approved' contractors who would complete the conversions for the various contracts.

The contract for the Irish Limbers was carried out by D&P ltd in the Buquor Works in 1940 .

These kits were also fitted to the French 75's and accompanying ammunition limbers the Irish had .

 

 

Rob.................rnixartillery.

The one that I saw was much different. It opened up from the front instead of the back like most limbers and has fittings on top to carry a gun ring much like the 25Pdr limber.

Not much to see this week, so no pictures. I fitted the tow hitch spring. Levelled off the main body and bolted it down And I made up part of the flooring plates.:-D

Your a great man for making up tools. A fine bit of work there in removing all 6 wheel stations:sweat:. The oil seals for the ferret were easily got from UK suppliers, I would have thought they would have ones for the Saladin.

Keep up the good/hard work, love the thread:-D. Ross

Rear axle

Ross ,

 

You are in the right part of the world ,the Irish Army were the last nation to use the No 29 limber although they did have a couple of minor mods fitted, the picture in your thread shows the British variant.

I would advise that if you attempt to build a replica you must view one personally and take all the necessary patterns, dimensions and measurement's yourself this will help ten fold when you come to build it, taking someone else's word doesn't always work !

There are several No 29 limbers over there that you should be able to cross reference and I know where you may be able to acquire a Martin Parry conversion that has been removed from a Gun.

 

Rob....................rnixartillery.

Yes, there are considerable differences between the Irish ones and the British ones but they started out as standard British ones that where later upgraded with the Martin Perry conversion. I would be interested in acquiring the Martin Perry conversion Kit you have mentioned. Could you P.M me with more information please.

Hi Rob,

Nice job with the gun. I am working on an Irish Army Morris Quad at the moment and am hoping to recreate an 18 pounder limber for it to pull. You seam to be a man in the know and thought you might be able to help me out. :-D

Check out my thread on hear: http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?42481-18-pounder-limber

Regards Ross

Why this particular radio Robin, Clansman is much easer to get hold of. We had two 352's fitted in our Spartan's in the Army.

Working on the Dash/bulkhead.

Hi LBdr

 

If you visit Firepower at Woolwich their library has quite a lot of pictures and stuff on the No 29 limber. Basically it was the old horsedrawn limber converted to pneumatic tyres in the same way as the old horsedrawn 18 pounder Mk 1 was converted with the Martin-Parry conversion (same size wheels). Arrange a visit in advance to avoid disappointment.

 

Chris

Is there anyone who lives near hear who could get a few dimensions off it as I live in Ireland.

I would take it on in a heart beet, but I am heavily committed to saving a Morris Quad at the moment that is soaking up my spare cash like a sponge:(. Do you think the owner will part with it? some more pictures would be nice to get an Idea if the chassis is in reasonable condition or not.

This weeks work. Finished off the front floor frame. and started stripping down the front bulkhead/dash.

Do we know who made them?

Fitted the body last week but only got to take some pictures this week. I have also repaired and fitted the engine frame.

I also reassembled the draw bar spring.

Chassis and body painted with the new top coat colour.