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The image with the Fiat and Trailer is probably in Verdun as the company 'Driving forces of the Meuse' is located in the building behind and was incorporated in Verdun in 1913 if Google translate is to be believed. What their business would be I can only guess, perhaps motoring? Tom

Thought I would post this image which has had a good few hours work with the pixels to make it visible. The only picture I have which was taken during loading of a trailer. Eight Men taking a breather before the final push. Merry Christmas Tom

Please can someone identify the towing truck 'Bringing in a crash" RFC Camp Mohawk Canada.

Here is the only other one I have, I have not been collecting images of this type of trailer. I have called them road going trailers because they have solid tyres, can be loaded with at least 2 fuselages so have a high potential weight capacity, do not impose any weight onto the towing vehicle's drive wheels and cannot facilitate manual loading of aircraft. On this basis I could not see them being used on anything other than paved roads? Does anyone have any information or insight into this type of trailer? Tom

Here is a WW1 http://www.leboncoin.fr/collection/483289270.htm WW1 two trailers for trucks a précosse with its wooden structure in very good condition, still in its gray color and markings still visible. The second suffered, but all metalic pieces are present, the two front tires still marked "Berguougnan" good basis for restoration. little help to make a beautiful and rare set with a truck in the same time .. a trailer of the same type is visible Dufresne museum ... militaria, ww1, the subject of hairy ancestor, nash-quad .. for the team the right corner is a trailer ... thank you Berguougnan was a French tyre manufacturer who's name is still on new tyres today. So this would have been a French Trailer but very much like the RFC/RAF road going trailers: I hope someone picks it up as it looks in good condition considering its age. Tom

Markings Can anyone please explain the round white circle on the Leyland rear and the trailer mudguard:

Looking at the first image of a Bébé these 8 fellows have managed to survive through 1914 and 15 together and anticipate three more years ??? which proved correct, although sadly I would think they would be very lucky to remained the '8 INSEPARABLES'. TM229 ?

Thanks - A whole new world! and here a Bugatti (designed) Staff Car with 2 prop-shafts, concentric with each other, for 2 speeds. not very good. What is the truck in the background please.

And This?

What is this please?

Update: Q it is! Here is a quote from a recent RAF paper I read tonight: From its inception, the RFC was intended to be employed in direct support of the Navy and the Army. Not only was the organisation of the Military Wing of the RFC tailored for deployed operations alongside the Expeditionary Force, but the flight and squadron system was specifically chosen to provide for flexibility and ease of handling in the field. Each squadron comprising three flights of four aeroplanes and a headquarters flight was to be a homogeneous unit, with its own field repair stores, and transport services, and self-contained and could be detached for short periods. This organisation survived the test of two world wars and is still recognisable today. Just keep digging until you find what you want to read! Tom

Hello Tony Can you tell me what time did you elect to set off, Early, Middle or Late? Perhaps a convoy this time if we get the timing right. The Crossley will be much slower with the un-braked trailer. I have changed the axle gearing crown wheel and pinion for a lower ratio to cope with the extra weight! May also have sorted a fuselage. I await your timing response before submitting my entry. Tom

My first thoughts were of a 2 cylinder Marshall Tractor, but looking more closely the cylinders are too high and it is most likely a roller on an airstrip probably in the US. Here are three more, first and last claim to be from WW1 but I do not think so, the aircraft is more recognisable than the car in the centre one.

Here are few images for identification:

Good call, I will go along with HQ FLIGHT 988 until an alternative comes along. Now what number is my trailer to be? Tom

Where have all the war trophies gone? This makes interesting reading http://www.kiamatetoa.com/wartrophies/chapter_three.html

H2 FLIGHT 988 Here are two sources of basic information I have come across: It will be observed that most of the Lorries and Tenders are in groups of three or multiples of three—due to the fact that the transport is thus entirely separate for each of the three flights. The composition of an RFC squadron varied depending on its designated role, although the Commanding Officer was usually a Major (in a largely non-operational role), with the Squadron 'Flights' (annotated A, B, C etc.) the basic tactical and operational unit, each commanded by a Captain 988 is the trailer number, seems plausible FLIGHT looks good H2 here is the problem Any ideas what H2 actually says bearing in mind the above? Tom

Thank you for your postings Can anyone help with correct markings? Few have visible marks here are the most interesting. Tom Looks like: H2 FLIGHT 988 ? Rear trailer number 20 220 on Reinforcement plate Triangle within circle? on mudguard Comments please Tom

The Chains are still a mystery. Chocks would be a good idea. The images I have show well used trailers where any unnecessary, superfluous parts which could be more useful elsewhere would go missing soon after deployment! Chocks would fall into this category and so I would be lucky to find a trailer image with chocks still attached. The brackets between the wheels I am now thinking are to take Lewis Gun Transit boxes. British aircraft were often fitted with this type of gun and the box dimensions correspond to the available space. You never see a box in situ, as most photos have German planes. It of course is difficult to see a box in this position anyway. Tom

Thanks for the heads up re Peter Jackson. Here are some images taken this weekend prior to painting and without mudguards. Still some detail work to do to complete. If you look at the lower image you will see the telescopic draw bar at its shortest with the extra over and beyond the rear axle. It looks so simple yet has taken an inordinate amount of time to go from period images to an accurate working example. Tom

As you have guessed I have spent some hours trying to figure out what the brackets are for, this has been under consideration for some months as outlined in previous posts The open centre section is no doubt there to assist lashing of the aeroplane. Some images have temporary boarding so the trailer could be used as a coffin carrier. For me the brackets form a cradle each side of the draw bar tube perhaps for additional stowage boxes or tailplane support boxes the as seen on a number of images with aircraft. I have attached images along with corresponding drawings done today showing what I believe the brackets look like (in Grey). There are also two sets of chains adjacent to each bracket? Any ideas for consideration please. View on centre section View from underside Here is an image with the chains local to the brackets which can be seen if you look carefully Any ideas? Tom

Hi Steve, Quality is poor as I have lost my camera and the image has been taken on a phone camera I will take some relevant pictures next week. Again looking at previous posts and interrogating the web found that three other companies produced aeroplane trailers. E and H Hora London as mentioned by Runflat and also Lacre as speculated by Reherring, amazing! Commercial Motor July 1916 The light two-wheeled trailers, as used to convey aeroplanes, should have other applications commercially. You can get quotations from the Lacre Motor Car Co. Ltd., 78, York Road, N., E. and H. Hora, Ltd., Peckham Road, S.E., or B. N: Taylor, 4, Rosemont Road, Finchley Road, N.W. ' Also Hora's Trailer. The actual photograph reproduced on this page is of an interesting type of aeroplane trailer, of which large batches are being built for the Admiralty by E. and H Hora, Ltd. Other trailers have been built with box sides, open tops and ends, and wire wheels with Warland rims. The platform and axle width of the latest type is stated to be ample to carry two biplanes in sections. The photograph shows one of the first batches This trailer is early, recessed boarding and without metal capping joint stiffeners, also missing splashboards. I still cannot understand just what is going on between the wheels above the axle. Here is a nice piki

Here is an interesting picture. Just lacking paint, splashboards, toolbox and aeroplane or boxed propellers and wings! Any suggestions for markings please.

Looking at Q 26245 Is this breakdown lorry fitted with an additional axle? and what is the trumpet type thingy adjacent to the winder? Tom

Thanks for posting These pictures give a different perspective than normal, for me I can now see how the under tray is made and fitted to a Crossley. I do like the images of WW1 breakdown lorries. Tom