Scrunt & Farthing

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On 5/11/2020 at 5:19 PM, Doc said:

It was an act of generosity that made the switch surplus to requirement; that act behoves another. 

I'm sure it will look better on your dashboard than gathering dust on a shelf or in a box. 

Yours to collect once the lockdown is over. 

 

Del

Del

Of course, Doug. I shall send it over now.  Regards. Dave

Duncan,

Thinking about your engine size deliberations I am minded to copy this chart onto the forum which list the engine v capacities from 1927 onward (i.e. about the age of your engine).  It shows both lorry and passenger vehicles.  PM me if you want a better resolution copy or the .pdf.

Dave

Del

On 5/5/2020 at 11:41 PM, Zuffen said:

  not the best way to do it but it works and these old trucks won't be doing 100,000 miles per 

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The last pictures Andy, got me pondering on something I had thought about when looking at my Leyland parts list. 

Namely, underpans, or undershields (Leyland parlance) - were they a requirement of the extant law (either police regulations in London, or county traffic commissioners); or was it common practice to fit them due to the oily/leak-prone designs of the day; or further was it because of the mixed traffic of horse and lorry that demanded no drips of oil onto pavements?   I wonder when they stopped fitting them, and does anyone know?

I think you are right Mammoth, I shall take the Doug Jack listing down off my first post.   I think the theory of a 2 or 3 tonner is most likely.

S&F

Duncan,

This may help you, I copy a scan from Leyland Torque.  All copyright Mike Sutcliffe (photo) and the Leyland Society (Magazine), but the engine number is about 300 away from yours.  The engine type was also used in Fire engines of the period so it could have been a lorry or Fire engine.

26 minutes ago, andypugh said:

You might be able to get "lamp oil" which might even be better. 

https://www.robertdyas.co.uk/clear-lamp-oil-1-litre

And I would expect barbecue lighter fluid to work. Possibly even white spirit. 

In order of preference for fire breathing: lamp oil, paraffin, barbecue fluid, white spirit. (Just don't swallow any of them).

The proper lamp oil smells that bit nicer, too.  When I finally lose the last of my faculties i probably wont care that much, but for now I do like the whiff of lamp oil.

19 minutes ago, Tomo.T said:

Paraffin is not as readily available as it used to be.

 

Rye Oils, Tomo.  I agree you can't get the stuff on the pump anymore.  I have been buying it from Rye Oils for a while now, plus my grease.  It pains me that I can't just buy it on the pump but I guess pre-pack and the B&Q mob killed all of that.  Plus you can use whats left over for mixing with a bit of oil for cleaning and engine. 🙂 

16 hours ago, Great War truck said:

Should the engine number correspond with the chassis number?

 

No, not on Leyland's, there appears to be no relationship.  Each "unit" had its own number.  Happy to be corrected but this is my understanding.

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That second photo reminds me of those Autostereogram images that were popular in the 1990s; one would stare at it and different images would materialise.  In this case I stare at it, and more treasure materialises.  Including a steering box I had not spotted the first time around.   As an aside, that was one heavy case for such small bearers on the bottom.

What a lovely box of treasure  to have in one's yard.

I have transferred the sectional parts list to Excel to make it searchable and sortable.  As before I suspect it will be of use to RAF types, GH2, PHT etc.

Nuts and Bolts are excluded.

Can you get a read of how it was patterned from the draft angles on, I guess the base/top is a datum.  The draft angles may not be obvious w/o a square.

Was that crescent always so, Steve?  It looks like that bottom union has been TIGed in there, if so has that changed the shape of the bottom connection.  It may be easier to simplify that part of the pattern and "jump up" the OD further along the branch.

Dave

On 4/8/2020 at 10:14 PM, nz2 said:

Thank you for posting these parts catalogues. It would be nice to work through and compare with other catalogues to find what parts didn't change over the years. I wonder if any parts are in common with the earliest petrol lorries or even the steamers. Thats excluding nuts and bolts. Another  wet day activity.

 

Del

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16 minutes ago, andypugh said:

I reckon that my CNC lathe with a CBN tool could tickle them back in to shape it it was OK for them to become a little thinner.

(And I am not allowed in to work for 3 weeks,  and expect to run out of things to do)

CBN would tickle them nicely.  What about 440c SS, and then run up to the proper temperature.   With 440c you will get to the proper hardness for the bearing.  The only problem might be finding a small enough quantity.

Dave

Del