recymech66

Seems like a very good idea to me, some very good advertising, and hopefully a good recruiting tool for our future generation of Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen.

I'm no business man but I don't reckon it'll be taking anything away from our "Aircraft carriers or Tactical vehicles" but each sale does generate much needed cash for a Service charity, which one escapes me but apparently it's advertised on the side of the box.

Just my opinion.

Petop please check your PM's.

I've got no photos (not allowed) only my memory to go on.

All the 6x6 tankers I drove had the push button auto box like the wrecker.

Come to think of it now, I don't remember seeing any 6x6 cargo trucks, only 4x4 and 8x8.

Mind you, I only got to drive maybe a couple of hundred trucks out of an order for 8000, so there could well be variants I never saw.

I never had any reason to operate the diff locks or PTO either, so I'm not that familiar with the switches.

 

The 6x6 tanker and 8x8 wrecker towing a Foden in the pictures you posted don't appear to have the holes on the doors and cab which I think are for fixing the armour. The pictures on page 4 of this thread also show a different winch rope end to the ones I saw. It also looks like the crane hook is hanging loose when I remember the hook dropping in to a box with the crane stowed to stop it swinging around. I guess there must be some slight differences between the trial and production versions.

The production models have a different winch rope end than the Prototype wagons also the hook locks up against the jib when in the stowed postion, I've seen both the box you refer to and also without.

I'll try to repost the pics that aren't showing up.

Reccy, you need to redo photos...not showing up

Damn, I'm a computer biff, they show up on mine??? Help lol.

A failed snatch block.

Arriving at the sandy place.

SV® in a sandy place.

Without Bar Armour.

recymech, what you think of them??

OPSEC stuff aside.

I like it a lot, its got loads of stuff the old wreckers don't, it can lift more and winch more, its a dream to drive.

Shame it doesn't have a sleeper cab like the Foden but you can't have everything, but its doing very well on Operations.

A lot of guys were/are sceptical but I'm sold on it, but I will miss the Foden when it finally goes out of service.

Yep me with the one at Bordon.

A different view of the truck for you.

We now (MoD) treat Recovery equipment as Lifting equipment Hence LOLER 98 and as Richard Farrant says, in respect of Shackles, Pulleys, Chains, strops etc they are subject to a periodic inspection as Accessories currently 6 months, when refering to cranes, winches, Palletisers, Trolley jacks etc as Appliances they are subject to an Annual load test.

I think people are getting confused over the 30 Ton tank needing a 30 Ton winch, You can have a 62 Ton Challenger 2 bogged in, but it may only require a winch pull of 30 Ton in order to extract it. Hence if you had a winch rated at 30 Ton single line pull great, but if you only had a 15 Ton winch then you would need to insert a Snatch/Pulley block giving you a 2:1 pul of 30 Ton, doubleing your 15 Ton winch, or 2 Snatch/Pulley blocks giving a maximum pull of 45 Ton 3:1.

MilitantGraham is quite right you dont need to get the Snatch block tested. But under Loler 98 Regulations it should be thoroughly inspected/examined every 6 months.

And it would take a brave man to go putting 45 Tons on a snatch block with an unknown history.

Just my opinion. Great discussion though.

Welcome Paul, enjoy the site.

Hi Chris, don't mess about! Get a Dodge, far superior to a Land Rover.

I hear you Tony but.... I've been brainwashed with Land Rover and just love the things, got to have a winch fitted though, just so I can play and get her bogged in....... Lovely:cool2:

Thanks for the warm welcome chaps.

Markheliops, Yes still using the Foden, but have also played with the Man, we wont get them just yet as the first ones off the production line have gone to the sandy places.

And yes, I play lots with Armour lol, nothing beats it.

Could you not get the snatch block tested by someone like

 

http://www.phutcheon.co.uk/load_testing.html

 

and then you would have a useable safe peice of kit ?

 

Jamie

I guess you work for Phutcheon then

Nice one....... Next!

We have just replaced all our Fellows as they wouldn't certify them at 45 Tons, bearing in mind the new MAN SV® can winch 50 Ton 2:1 we now have a new Snatch block rated at 50 Tons.

Hi,

It would appear I forgot to introduce myself, I'm Chris I'm a Recovery Mechanic still serving and obviously love all things big and green.

I would love to own my own MV but at the moment I get to play with big green toys for free, I guess when I get out I will finally buy one, I would love a Land Rover of some sort so will keep putting the Euros away for when I get out.

Hello to all

Chris

You could be right but..... it looks like its completely out of the water, and a bit short plus they definately look like Landys.

Come on FV1609 the suspense is killing me.

One of these?

Yes, thats what I reckon it is, flanked by a couple of Land rover Wolfs.

Couple of Land Rover TUM HS (Wolf) and a Hippo Barv based on the Leapod 1 Future Beach Armoured Recovery Vehicle.

Just re-read my post and realised I was talking rubbish, of course if you have an Estimated pull of 30 Tons then the loading at the Snatch block will be 30 Tons but the loading on the ropes on a 2:1 will be 15 Tons as will the loading on the winch, if you have a snatch block which is rated at 15 Tons then that will be the maximum load you can apply to the point were it's connected to the tackle layout. So the maximum winch pull you can apply will be 7.5 Tons.

But as I stated before, I would be very, very wary of putting any load on a snatch block were you have no history, it may be damaged, it may have been repaired after failure, you have no idea of weather it may have been overloaded during it's lifetime.

I'd suggest working out an estimated pull before any winching task, so at least you have an idea of what sort of load you are applying to your recovery tackle.