recymech66

This picture appears to show two completely different forms of the inverted V on an Abrams.

 

Does this suggest one was slapped on without any instructions as to size etc, and one was added later when a standard had been introduced? Not a Granby expert so don't shoot me down if I am wrong

Your correct, most were just slapped on willynilly, as I mentioned in my earlier post we were issued with some strange self adhesive tape which could be seen through IR in later conflicts.

I'm re spraying my Defender 110 back into it's Gulf War 1 clothes and have been searching loads of sites (including using the search button on here) for some pictures of a 110 Hard Top that has the inverted V markings to no avail.

 

Has anyone got some pictures of a Land Rover with GW1 markings? If not, do you know how many inverted V's were on the vehicle, where were they placed and what size are they supposed to be?

 

I know they had them on the sides of the hard top and I'm guessing they were also on the rear door and on the roof. Were any on the front and where?

 

Any help greatly appreciated?

 

Cheers

 

Andy

Inverted Vs were painted on randomly IIRC, roughly around 2 inch wide but top to bottom was fairly random depending on the place it was painted, I do know that on later excusions we were issued some sort of self adhesive tape which should show up under IR. See below for pics on random inverted V sizes.

I'm not a user but have recovered a few, in my view I would say the Oshkosh unit itself is an extremely good bit of kit, possibly let down by the Kings trailer obviously the trog users could varify either way.:cool2:

Now that takes some explaining to the guvnor ! :blush:

Well boss, it was like this:blush:

Someone has posted a pic on here showing one on its side and commented that they may have a problem with the trailer hydraulics Tony ! :embarrassed:

Your correct, SA80 clips/brackets.

I'm not sure you are right on that one.

 

I have known a couple of the guys at Withams for some time now and am told that, especially with recovery vehicles, much of the kit is taken and used to replaced lost / broken items for vehicles that are remaining in service.

Many of the Scammell Crusader EKA's that came out in the first few waves were exactley the same.

As for what Withams paid .....

I believe that much of the stuff that withams sells is sold under the following conditions.

 

You are correct, to give you an example, all units now operating MAN SV® have taken approx half the CES from Foden recovery vehicles as it's interchangeable less items specific to the EKA recovery device ie, lifting forks, lifting bars etc. items such as chains etc would be left on as the new vehicle comes with uprated chains/strops etc. Likewise some items which remain with the Fodens will be taken to replace lost/damaged items for others in the fleet.

I know what you mean - mine have been so abused they are full of holes, and the cash just seems to disappear out the bottom. Oh, you meant miltary vehicles....:blush:

 

Recymech - it looks like manouvreability in confined spaces might be fun with the longer vehicle - how does turning circle compare with your old Foden, and do you foresee any problems given the nature of your work? (Not that a narrow field gateway off a narrow country lane is likely to stop the Army for long )

A really good question, the Foden was bad enough but the new vehicle has the turning circle of a small battleship, it just means you have to think a little more how your going to complete the task. Were it will be a problem is on Operations when trying to get at vehicle casualties in tight built up areas and I imagine it's going to be a little frustrating, that said recy mechs are extremely capable and will just come up with another way of rescuing the casualty.:cool2:

Well that's cheered me up no end, was it painted in-house or contracted out? Painting them green seems like a waste of money unless they have a potential military buyer lined up.

I think the ones that are still roadworthy/taskworthy will be redistributed among the units that aren't due to get SVR for sometime yet, I imagine the ones up for sale at Withams are in a sorry state, yes I'd love my own but having enough cash to pay for one is only half the story, I would'nt like to pay to keep one roadworthy, you would have to have very deep pockets.

I bet long term the Foden will have proved that it will have been the better Wrecker. The MAN is nice, but there is a lot of electronics in that truck and I bet it wont be as reliable as the Foden at the same age as the Fodens are now.

 

I think the dash is the same as the civvy truck. When I had a look in a GS MAN, it was the same inside as the TGA 26.440 I had at the time.

 

As the Foden is parked up and I'm paying for it through my taxes, can you park it up outside my house so I can have a play?:cool2:

Just to make you that bit happier you'll be glad to know your tax payers pennies paid for a nice shiney re-spray just before we parked her up awaiting disposal, go figure:nut:

cant wait until they release these beasts...i want one for sure...always felt the foden was a bit unstable

I fear you may be in for a longish wait matey:cool2:

Some of my photos of the range wrecks on Salisbury Plain.

Hi all,

 

Has anyone got any pictures of a Land rover with SA80's (L85A1) fitted in the weapons racks behind the front seats ?

 

Secondly does anyone know if this will fit a lightweight ?

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/military-land-rover-SA80-weapons-mounting-kit_W0QQitemZ360190094727QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item53dd00ad87

 

Many thanks

 

Phil

If I get chance I'll take some for you tomorrow at work.

Are you allowed to tell us any specs on that truck eg crane winch ratings etc certainly looks like an animal to me

PM sent:D

Edited to add, all info freely available on the tinternet it would seem.

Weight 32.5 Tonne.

Crane max lift 15.5 Tonne.

Front winch 10 Tonne.

Rear winch 25 Tonne single pull (50 Tonne 2 to 1).

Aux winch 1.5 Tonne.

Rear spades will give 50 Tonne of anchorage.

Recovery device (suspend/support tow) 13t

Thanks for posting RM, are they all going to be RH drive?

Yes mate all RH drive.

Excellent thanks will look fwd to that..

 

Just to clarify - the pic that shows what looks like a pile of scrap is actually what was left of the mudguards - new ones going on. One thing which you can't really see from the pic is that on the front mudguards there is a small cutout just where the shackles attach to the hull. On most CVRTs this doesn't seem to be there meaning that towing or recovery using the shackles leads to bent mudguards so could be a unit mod ?

 

Also the sprockets have all been replaced - pic is just to show how bad they were.

 

The tracks are quite rusty but when I looked at the pads they actually look pretty much brand new.

 

Should be up and running by end of this week. Painting will probably take a bit longer though !

You are correct, the metal plate behind the mud guards gets in the way of taking the shackles off and fitting the hollebone (towing A frame) adaptors so we bend the plates out of the way to make it easier, in time they end up in all sorts of shapes and rusty. It would have been a local mod to make cut outs so as to stop you having to bend them out of the way.

All track vehicles end up with rusty tracks during a period of inactivity however a good runout especially over cross country usually removes all the rust.

All vehicles are now diesel powered, yes Samson is still in service, I have one at work and it's 00GM**

Apologies for not posting pics yet. Hope to get some on this weekend. Recon engine is now fitted, though not fully plumbed yet - few more pipes on the sammy. New sprockets fitted (old ones well hooked), and tracks now on.

 

One question though which people might be able to help with - colour wise it is plain, faded green (possibly never issued) - as such I feel a bit more open to a different camo scheme and was maybe thinking green and sand a la BATUS - is this feasible for a Samson ? Anybody got any in service pics to give me ideas ? Have to say whilst not a rivet counter I would normally try to keep to the original scheme but feel a bit more open to something different for this one....

 

Cheers

I'm still serving and I have a Samson in my fleet of recovery vehicles, it's currently plain green (was black and green prior to respray) BATUS colours will look good on your wagon, give me a couple of days and I'll dig out some pics of a BATUS Sammie and post if you haven't got sorted out by then. Your wagons looking good, be great to see the pics when it's finished well done.

What is the future for the collection? and the Museum, Bordon camp is due to close, there are plans to re develope the site, Arborfield barracks too are closing too, and moving to a new complex in Hereford?

"Hereford" were did you hear that? maybe try St Athan, the plan is to move both SEAE and SEME as per the link

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/9A40F7A2-F522-4E7C-99A6-76198DACB41D/0/prefer_bid_announce_army.pdf

Last I heard was they were going to build an all singing all dancing museum on the site at St Athan to accomodate all sections of the REME museum, but not sure if that plan is still going ahead. The St Athan site will be a Tri Service training school but the biggest hurdle was/is recovery training and were they were going to site it.

Simon cracking website you have, wish my photos would turn out as good as those, maybe I should invest in a better camera:D

I think someone mentioned before but I cant find it now, is there a register online of Chieftains and their fate / current ownership?

 

R

There's a guy called Steve Jacklin who is a Chieftain guru and owns the copyright for the complete Chieftain disposal list.

You can contact him through Recovery Mechanic past and present. http://recoverypnp.niceboard.com/portal.htm

I've seen them many times, during my many stays at Bordon on courses etc, impressive collection. You should take yourself over to the REME museum at Arborfield if you've never been, thats equally impressive.

They are all on the old style track, single centre pad, most were upgraded to the twin pads per link. Are they both still there, I presume them to be recent pictures due to the MANs i the background ?

Yes it's still there, sat on the bridge sections exactly as you see it.

That's really nice, not sure about the Rebel steering guard though, just a bit out of place. I'd love to own that though.

Forget the CALM, that's a lovely house you have there by the lake, were in Canada is it? That's what I would like when we emigrate to Canada (or am I dreaming to much):nut: