Gordon_M

C of C is an EC thing and isn't appropriate for something made in the 1940s - basically every modern ( '80s or '90s onwards ) vehicle has type approval and EC compliance certification, which a jeep basically - won't.

Gordon

Yes, an engine crane is a particularly useful item. I bought a 2 ton crane some twenty years back and use it every week for something or other.

I received my little K-38 trailer with the lid loose, and didn't think to check the body for out-of-square till after I had fitted an expensive new interior. Yes, it was 11/16" out of square, as I discovered after I had rivetted the hinge and lid back on - enough to stop it closing.

So, dangle it from the engine crane, chain one corner down to an old Dodge tow hook, and pump it till it was 22/16" off in the other direction, then release ....:-X Job done.

Just in passing this trailer design is pure civilian, it seems to originate with A.T & T in 1938.

Great - as usual.

You have my permission to slap the first person that comes up to you on the run and says;

" you were really lucky to find one in as good condition as that "

Gordon:D

Very nice.

I wonder if you know of Pat's Forum? The Society of the Military Horse? They would like to see that too if you don't already know about them.

Gordon

The most info you'll find is in Fred Crismon's US MILITARY WHEELED VEHICLES, but then it looks like that may be where you got those images...

If you wanted to ask around, I'd try the ATHS Forum for that sort of thing;

http://forums.aths.org/InstantForum2010/ATHS-Discussion-Forums

Yup,

Glynn Hewitt used to recondition the INSTOW DUKWS when they needed it. He used that work to source a lot of genuine parts and re-make more - including the first run of 11:00 x 18 tyres and stuff like that.

Gordon

Darned computers.....

With a bit of luck I may just have landed another wartime Dodge which would be a one off survivor ( as far as I know anyway ) but no details till it is in a container headed my way or I'll jinx it.

Gordon

Rick got the VK62B complete enough to take it to a show this last month;

http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/dodge_rebuild/part39-raceretro.htm

Gordon

Its the armoured C15TA, for sure

The extra weight was too much for the Chev engine, so they used the GMC 270 powerplant. There's one here in Scotland but unfortunately the rear armour got torched.

Gordon

Gordon, do you know this Sno-Cat?

http://www.modellismopiu.net/m+gallerie/main.php?g2_itemId=257742

Hi Hanno,

I just about know what that is. Basically it is a type 843, the 743 but with cabover configuration, however that's a real army one and it has mud & snow tracks on it rather than snow tracks. Where is that one - do you know? The pontoon configuration is more like the US Army version.

There is a similar civilian one in the Belgian army Museum ( Brussels? )

Gordon

It's back up now.

Hanno and Shawn are working on moving server and getting it solid and reliable again.

Gordon

It needs to go into the truck bed, be lifted onto the headboard, and carefully lowered into place by at least two people and preferably four.

I do think it would be better to roll it outside first, regardless of the weather, and put that old carpet down in the back to keep it all clean.

Am I the only one who has noticed the amazing resemblance to a church pew ?

Gordon

It's a length thing.

Side reflectors were / are a legal requirement on vehicles and trailers over a certain length.

Not sure that would pan out if that requirement has been introduced since it was made, but a DUKW, for example had side reflectors because they were a legal requirement in the US when it was made.

Well there was still a green one at Balmoral tail end of last year, I think I was there in September, unless it has moved in five months ?

The camo one was at Beltring in 2002, and the white one was at Willie Bone's place in St Johns Town of Dalry about the same time.

Hope you dont mind the pics......

I think we'd be complaining if you didn't include some pics. That's a lovely starting point for any resoration. It's amazing how unlike a Cent it looks without the track guards.

Gordon

Another couple to add, but I just have locations rather than numbers.

There's a red one visible by the west side of the A9 south of Aviemore, presumably civilian - I always thought it had to the the one restored for the TV.

... and, if we are talking owned by the UK, HM Her Maj has one parked in the stable block at Balmoral castle.

I'd be interested to hear if you run across any US Army versions, as they were surely trialed ( don't have Crismon's book to hand )

Should you run across any similar US-built snow stuff please let me know as I have few bits and pieces here in Scotland.

( Tucker Sno-Cat, four Saginaw M19 ski / wheel trailers, and a bunch of Allis-Chalmers T26E4 M7 Snow Tractor spares )

Gordon

I didn't know that they were claiming credit for the Tucker Sno-Cat Rock'n'Roll, how did that get in there?

http://www.gwim2.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/743statu.htm

Gordon

AF Ross, Station Yard, Girvan was where that Army batch was disposed of, sure to be some bits left there ....

Gordon

So it is Hanno, I wondered where your lot had gone.

Did you spot the Power Wagon parked next to it in another, similar photo?

I'd think a lot of those trucks were military-derived if not actually military in origin too.

Gordon

You might want to have a cup of teat to hand as you scroll through the 20 pages of this thread:

http://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/showthread.php?17042-Alaskan-Logging-Equipment-Left-to-Rust

Admittedly a lot of it isn't military, but a chunk of it is.

I spotted some heavy tracked carriers under the big tower logging units, a couple of Sherman-type drive ends, and an M15A1 tan transporter trailer that you normally see behind a Dragon Wagon hooked to the back of a Mack and left sitting in the weeds.

Alaska with some spanners, a battery, and some Plus Gas, anyone?

Gordon

Did I mention the steam locomotives too?

If that was a conventional system my first thought would be that you had adjusted the master cylinder pushrod and taken all the slack out of it, so the piston coundn't come right back?

Check the manuals to see if there should be a specified free play in the master cylinder pushrod, and if there is check it is correct. If there is none - then increase it. If there is way too much then the piston may be stuck and not returning.

That's the three types really.

SHORT

The standard WW2 flathead six US small Dodge truck engine was known as the 23.5" engine, as that is the length of the block / head joint. VC engines started as 201 cu in T202 code and went up to 217 and 230 cu in by taking out first the bore and then lengthening the stroke. 230 cu in was as far as it would go because there was no more metal to take off between the close cylinder pairs. M37 series stayed with 230 I think.

LONG

The Canadians mostly used the 236 cu in engine that had a lot of parts that would fit the US equivalent, but NOT anything related to the length of the engine ( block, head, cam, crank ) as it was 25" at the block / head joint. They sensibly stuck with that right into Canadian M37 production. Engineering codes included T222 and T110L, but I'm not sure about the configuration of the 1941 T212 series.

Well post-WW2 the US went to the 25" engine for small trucks, although 25" US engines had appeared in 1.5 ton trucks

BIG

Larger US trucks had bigger engines, of course, notably the 331 cu in that appeared in Rick's VK 62 B and the so-called BURMA Dodge series, you can see Rick's running here;

PLUS

There were dozens of other T-code engines, see Eric's list here;

http://www.t137.com/registry/help/otherengines/tengines.html

T-codes were Dodge truck, but there are similar lists for P-code Plymouth, D-code Dodge car, S for De-Soto, and IND-code Industrial engines.

Need any more?

Gordon

VW-powered AKTIV units.

They were not the same as the common (?) red version though. They were canvas topped and looked even smaller and lighter.

Ross at Girvan had dozens of them in the 1980's when they were all demobbed, everything from salvage to as-new, but only a couple of hulks left last time I was there.

That's beginning to look like a truck, well done ( as usual )

I was desperately trying to think of some clever line about putting more air in the tyres and hitting the roof, but alas for solid tyres.

Gordon

The average GMC is unkillable, but there's piles of places where it can cost you money.

First, you'd have to make sure your potential purchase had an original workshop body, not a later Swiss addition or modification. A hard cab is liable to have a better cab floor and generally less rot.

Second - completeness. all mechanical parts are available but good bodywork is expensive.

Third - good running engine, transmission check in all the gears, ratios, and positions, check of clutch, assessment of transfer case noise.

Fourth - check all shafts for joint play ( or the shaft just not being there ) and check the pillow block.

Fifth - check the torque rods / radius rods on the rear suspension.

GMC owners - what did I miss ?