The Garrison

Oil filter housing restored.

Cleaned up gearbox top cover, and manifold. Painted and ready for action.

Still got all my issue DPM's and they worked great in our dark native bush. Not to keen on the new digi (insert bad word here).

Gave me a chuckle to actually, there were indeed some issued with 'jump' flaps and not everyone got them. Most were issued without so yes it does make them 'sought after' but by no means 'rare'

Sadly real camo is a thing of the past now... A nice piece to have

Sadly not much to report lately. A rather wet winter kept us inside. The body however is now hanging from the shed roof and chassis is being stripped. The head has been cleaned up and painted, some NDT's fitted to the rims and one pennant ready.

Seems we found some interesting OD paint under the fuel tank and on the driveshaft. The fuel tank was also fitted finished in chromate orange paint and not the gloss black it should have been.

Nothing upside down here in Middle Earth. Just have to beware of the Orcs and Trolls that inhabit.

Ron, Sadly there are no Aussie sheep dogs in New Zealand so i had to do it myself. Not a bad job huh?

Another pic of the 'Brothers in Arms'. Indian M741B and Triumph 3HW in the foyer of our local RSA for ANZAC Day 2013.

Hi Matt.

I restored this bike for a friend and actually not many fastenings were replaced. After removing all the years of paint and grime they were in very good shape. A few burred edges were repaired and there you have it. We have not a bad supply of UNF and UNC stuff over here still and whatever i can't source i can turn up on the lathe.

Good luck with your project, would be good to see some pictures.

I just haven't got around to painting the nuts and boltheads yet. I prefer to leave them unpainted for the first few months or 100 miles. Then things can be checked, tightened and painted. The owner has been tripping round on another bike so i will probably prep them when he returns.

Great to see another trumpy coming on. Good luck with the restoration.

OK it has been quite a while since this thread was started and the bike is finished for my part. Thanks to Ron and his research on the census number here she is in all her glory. The new owner is totally thrilled.

Thats a great pic.

Can anyone shed any light on the unit this group of scruffy individuals belong to please.

Hi Adam,

 

I read your post carefully, but do have some serious misgivings with your statements, I have had a couple of 741's and have read up on them, and have all the original manuals and parts lists, and have upgraded to a 1942 Mod 640 recently.

 

A 741 was designed as a 600cc - 37 cu in, (basicly a Scout, not a Sport Scout, that Military version was the 640) but the British and the other allies didn't want a 600, they wanted a 500cc for road tax reasons, That's when Indian took their new cylinders and drilled them for 2-1/2" pistons instead of the original 2-3/4".

 

There is so incredably lots and lots of misinformation about these models, it's not funny anymore, all the books written in the 70's and 80's had it all wrong, and are being quoted all the time!

 

So time to set it all straight, although it will take decades to do so!

 

My source here is a chief judge on Indians in the US AMCA, who owns every type of military Indian (exept the model 144 and 148, if there is interest for this I can post some pictures)

 

Re. the tyre pattern, there are perfect Firestone tyres now, that are an exact copy of the originals, and made in the US, a bit more expensive, but sooooo much better then the Chen Sings, email me for details.

 

Ron, I still regret selling that nice rear mudguard that's on your hybrid now!

 

Cheers,

 

Lex Schmidt

I think we will just let this go as its not majorly important, but suffice to say i own a large number of Indians and my main (not my only) 741 has been judged by a US AMA Judge as the best Military Indian M741B in New Zealand. Also the Military contract was an American contract for the US Forces and at that time had nothing to do with what the Commonwealth Forces wanted. Whilst loosely based on the 640 (and i say that very loosely) the entire engine was a detuned version of the 1934 re-developed 45cu (750cc) V Twin for the Sport Scout, frame was a modified Sportscout frame with lengthened forks, modified generator mount, instrument cluster mount and gear level mount point and those beautiful valanced guards were brutally attacked for a more Army look.

End of the day all due credit to those who have restored one of these classic bikes and hope you have fun and safe riding.

Many different ways to potentially put off an offender. Wallet on a chain is indeed a good choice, as is splitting up your cash. Cards fit nicely into caps and hats and also shirt pockets of military uniforms (for those of us in uniform). There are a variety of money belts that go around your waste, thigh and boot..

Ahh the days of baiting pickpockets with a fake wallet and a dye capsule...

Well done. And i bet they had fun doing something out of their normal every day routine and bringing to life some gear they would never get to wear normally, but maybe their grandparents did..

No its not disrespectful, its confused and doing no one any harm.

 

Years ago Peter Gray had a job to get vehicle crews to wear green coveralls.

 

Now every one wants to wear some sort of uniform.

 

Its a free country and men and women have fought for that

 

However if you are a re-enacter you have a duty to get your chosen period correct if not that IS disrespectful .

Totaly agree. If a re-eanctor has a full period uniform that is historically accurate i think due respect should be given, whatever the nationality. Would be an interesting event if everyone thought 'one' type of uniform was disrespectful so they didn't buy it... make for a very one sided battle on the field.

Welcome to the group Robin

Totally disrespectful to the Unit portrayed in my opinion and the military in general.

I have been re-enacting for over 10 years now and prior to that wore the uniform in service. I have no issues with anyone who wishes to purchase a uniform and better educate others about our history in the varying ways. What i do have issue with is the "disrespectful muppets" who wear half a uniform, or wear it in a way it was never intended. Even in the mess that jacket should never be left undone and hands in pockets...grrr:mad:. If you are going to wear it, do it properly.

Medal ribbons i can handle in a re-enactment scenario, fancy dress or event where it would be appropriate and i do like seeing children wearing grandparents medals (on the right) as a sign of respect for family.

Just an opinion...

This picture is from a cocktail party event with an old re-enactment unit.

This particularly nasty thread is going to cost me money . So inclined to go and find room and begin work on the Retreiver we found.

Keep the pics coming. Great work

Thanks Clive.. I managed to trace it back to the Great Dorset Steam Fair thread and got a photobucket image. Looks like the one. :thumbsup:

Had actually pre-perused that page thanks.. sadly nothing.

Anyone out there able to shed any light on this beastie? Obviously its a tent :-D before you smarties start..

Any info on what they were used for etc. Yes it is only an end section and we know it had a skirt round the edges and a door in the middle (at the back)

Great to hear you are legally mobile .

Couple of pictures. If you need any specific area shots to aid in the resto let us know

Also depending how much into things you want to get the Chen Shin tyre company has the original tred pattern used during the war. Yes they are nylon and have Chen Shin markings but.......

Congrats on your new project. Ok to start things off i understand Jerry and Juergen to have some very good parts. THere are a number of tricks you can do to greatly improve your engine and bring things up to a modern pace of life very easily.

Firstly the 741 was originally a 750cc Sport Scout, but due to the Army contract stating no larger then 500cc they reduced the size of the bore and stroke. That other brand starting with H ignored that part of the contract and kept producing 750's. Over here in NZ we bore and stroke our motors back to 750cc which greatly improves performance and you can happily keep up with most modern traffic. (rider dependant)

Original sport scout flywheels are becoming increasingly harder to find but if you can find an old iron head Harley the flywheels will work. A set of Honda Civic pistons and a few mods to the gudgeon pin clip and you have a nice 750cc Army Indian. Great for when you are loaded up with all the extra gear. In most cases you do not need to change the carb throat size or the valves unless you intend to race as the tolerances back then allowed for greater scope. Mine work fine as they are and it will do 100kph fully loaded.

Generators can be tricky but there is a company in the USA who makes a replica in 6v or 12v with reg/rec inclosed in the case. It is a very nice unit. Remember to always check the gene chain as they can really ruin your day if they come adrift.

If you have any issues PM me. I have restored a number of these and have another on the bench at present. Might even be a pic on the forum but definately pics on our website.

Best of luck