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On 11/18/2019 at 8:11 PM, Shruff’s Dad said:

I notice lance corporal pittock has not posted a. Picture of the old craftsmens apprentice curly haired brunette who also is good at shaping wood

To keep our followers informed Scruffs Dad is our resident “old boy  Dave with “Scruff “being his ferocious wood knawing hound.We also do a bit of care in the community and they let Dick out one day a week and Dave mothers him like the son he never had or wanted.
Here is a couple of pics of them machining up the roof boards 

9 hours ago, Bob Grundy said:

Its wonderful work, I wish I was that good with woodwork...

Nearly all Daves handywork ,I`m steel ,quantities and artistic direction plus I boil the kettle

Decided on the cab roof after a bit of deliberation and in theory you could put a saw through it to replicate the original lines.But after looking at all the different styles decided to model it on the B type and lines of the WW1 lorry as both are almost indentical outlines 

7 hours ago, lynx42 Rick Cove said:

You are doing amazing work.  Keep it up.  I do hope the Phillips head screws will be covered up. The credited inventor of the Phillips screw was John P. Thompson who, in 1932, patented (#1,908,080) a recessed cruciform screw and in 1933, a screwdriver for it.  After failing to interest manufacturers, Thompson sold his self-centering design to Phillips in 1935.

There is nothing which gets my goat more than Phillips head screws on a restoration predating the invention by Thompson of the square headed screw slot Phillips Head screw.

As I said, amazing work.

Come on they are No 2 pozi they have the extra little cross in the middle … keep up 😏.

  I didn`t  have the right size slotted but they will get swapped in due course ,thanks for the compliment ..

Got stuck in to the body most evenings and the last couple of weekends which we now feel we breaking the back of it .Ali bulkhead was rotten so a copy was made ,this was screwed plus I bonded on with Silaflex which will give it added rigidity .There is an original small cast steel hook on the top corner offside of the driver.If anyone knows what it was for as I think it maybe to tie the windscreen up but there is only one hook from new on the offside.There was enough remains of the battery box to copy and all the steel bracing was cleaned up and reused.The roof grab bars/strengthening rods had the treatment and are now in place but we won’t tension until we fit the roof boards.

How tall is it Tomo ,it looks tall as lovely as it is .

Ahh thanks for that ,spot on .I've forwarded on the link to the creative team who are advertising the auction etc and will post a pic of the finished item

I need some help to get a better quality copy of the original WW1  image as I need it as part of a display as the organisers of the charities want to reproduce it life size as a wall banner to go along with the photos of the soldiers I installed .The second photo recently taken is what I created modeled on the original photo .I think the original if I am correct was British soldiers at the Somme .I am about to take the soldiers down after Remembrance Sunday and they will be auctioned off with the proceeds going to local charities including the British Legion .I know I have posted this clip on here before so excuse me but this will show you the impact it has as you come onto Mersea across its tidal road.

11 hours ago, alixcompo said:

I'd love to know more about this road run. I'm local to the area and never knew a thing about it

 

Its organised by Ipswich Transport Museum ,I know they have more applicants than places so apply early is all I can advise .The section shown on the clip is probably the dullest section and isn`t that long as the rest of the route is through Ipswich  ,villages and of course Felixstowe with  all the pubs on route are decorated and has a cracking atmosphere from start to finish.

Don`t know the guy that posted this but this road run is very good and we all have fish and chips on Felixstowe sea front .This section of road is probably the emptiest section as the all the rest was lined with people waving union jack and so on. There is a hill somewhere !!

Got a bit more done all this curved timber is up Daves street coming from a boat building back ground , don`t think I could of done these on my own.Flipped the roof over to remove and salvage the steel brackets .Unfortunately the roof beam steel plates were past saving so I rolled some new ones (3 pairs ) the body isn`t square and had a 1" taper towards the rear from new so the difference is split along the length .We know this because the front bulkhead width and the rear bulk head steel frame are original giving us fixed points. 

Separate problem to your frosting which you can address as Owen suggest by drawing the air intake from around the exhaust manifold. With my Daimler we have had problems on hot days with the fuel vaporising I know of others adding diesel to great effect but I personally found adding a good quality two stroke oil get the desired result with the added bonus of lubricating the sleeve valves  plus with very little if any smoke from the exhaust.

Finally getting back to normal after getting covered in Dorset dust which is better than the mud ! Dave has I think got addicted to the bus and has worked miracles on the parts I struggled to get my head round . Had a couple of nice touches firstly the felt on the roof let go when it belted it down with rain which promptly showed up where the seats were positioned on the upper deck.The rain also washed off some of the white wash reveling the seating capacity in and out on one of the window rails.

Haven`t done to much as we have been busy getting our gear ready for Dorset but managed to get the floor boards down and the tread bars but couldn`t resist a photo before we fitted them as the elm looked fantastic almost to good. I`ll add a pic with the tread bars next time.

Haven`t made any drawings just copying everything we have with the exception of the two main chassis beams which we made 1 1/2" wider whilst maintaining the original o/a width so they fit fully on the CB chassis.This detail will be almost unnoticeable once bolted down and in theory we can swap the body onto a correct chassis if we found one .This is because the original  CC chassis is flared out about 3" from behind the driver where the body sits.

There`s a couple of "British " bodies surviving and from the info we have they are all very much the same .What is amazing is the quality of the joinery and the complexity of the combined joints on some of the uprights which is then all covered up . The rear corner posts being the most complex as they are cut and formed to lean out to the side and rear with a crank ,so might have to do a practice cut on some softwood before we tackle the Sapele !

At this stage we haven`t a clue about the rear step , stair or top deck yet so if anyone has some info please send it across.

Here`s an up date.We now have seemed to of acquired our resident "old boy" Dave who`s quite handy with the wood hence we are on a bit of a roll ,timber for body ordered with a bit of "mate rate "and off we go,not much of the original timber was salvageable but the main front bulkhead is plus nearly all the steel brackets and bars.As with my other projects we opted to use Sapele as we like its stable characteristics and its ability to take paint.The majority of the original body was Elm and luckily I have some elm which we will use for the floor boards and inspection hatches .

Next project !! After a bit of toing and froing we`ve decided to do another CB22 as we have found and located enough bits to build another one which actually amounts to more than we had for the first one plus we have the bonus of knowing what should be where and what needs to go in which hole.I was fortunate to be offered a bus body for the Palladium and when I went to look at it found it was sitting on a Daimler chassis the same as the one we had rebuilt a couple of years ago this one being exactly 100 vehicles younger according to the chassis numbers.Earlier this year a "British" bus body came up on EBAY which was we believe was originally fitted to a Daimler CC which equates to almost the same as the CB but the chassis rails are slightly further apart but the engine ,transmission and diff we believe were the same .I`m sure someone will dig out some info to the contrary now I`ve put my head above the parapet !! Going to start in ernest on the body  as this will take the lions share of the time as we are not coach builders and the mechanical stuff comes easy so we`ll use this as a form of R & R .At this stage we think about 90% of the steel brackets and the bulkhead are salvageable with most of the timber being pattens only due to the "newness" being worn away.

On 4/24/2019 at 8:56 PM, Tomo.T said:

Early last year I attended an auction in Lincolnshire where Messers Cheffins had on offer a miss matched pair of WD acetylene headlamps. One of these was a Miller, which was complete and would complement my previously restored WD Miller sidelamps. Unfortunately for me, Duncan P. had also spotted this desirable lot and we ended up in competition for it. So ferocious was the bidding that no one else got a look in and I ended up with it, after Dunc gave up the unequal struggle. Thanks Mate !  Another empty carcass was obtained from John Marshall and a lucky derelict find in Kent supplied all the bits I needed to make up a pair.

The other lamp was a Powell and Hanmer and has been donated to the Gosling Peerless project. I am well pleased with the freshly painted WD Millers and only need a rear lamp to make up the set.

They were a bargain ! ! still looking for some with WD  stamped on them if anyone sees any, must of had a soft moment  LOL They look lovely Tomo

I hope Richard P will not mind me posting his advert he sent me.Not Mack but will give you an idea of the market in recon trucks, obviously Daimler were the premier brand 😁

As its a bit quite at the moment I`ve just been notified that a friend  has just posted these clips on YouTube which hopefully some of you may find interesting as theres a couple of cameo roles of some that appear on this forum amongst the Old Warden footage .Tomo couldn`t polish the chimney top as he was on the back foot that morning LOL.

The same guy also made a short clip of the 51 soldiers and sailors that  I made for our WW1 centenary which we are going to take down mid November and auction the figures off with all proceeds going to local trusts and charities including the British Legion. 

Over a couple of evenings this week we stripped all the rubbish away to leave a clean starting point when we are ready to start. Roof is as good as new with a little bit of rot above the front leading  edge the main roof unbelievable as the original canvas was in tact under the felt/tar roof. Guessing the body was converted to a house at the end of 1934 as the additional ply floor was laid on top of newspaper and was dated October 34 and the headlines of the day was the civil war in Spain and the launching of HMS Snapper (submarine) after a google reported missing in the Bay of Biscay 1941. I am no bus expert but this seems a short life for a bus when I`ve been told this model started in 1925 unless its a bit earlier.

Offside wall quite rough ,N/side good as a pattern temporarily propped the roof up to try and get its shape back whilst it dries out properly now its undercover.We`ll make a temporary frame for it to sit on  and extract the Daimler later in the spring. 

Along with the Daimler parts was a second very low numbered chassis approx 1914 with the latter 1920s pneumatic wheels which we think was a standard upgrade in its day.This chassis you can just see in the photo with the axles peaking out under the bus body forward of the rear axle and it has a nice clear stencil stating max 20mph.

1 hour ago, Gordon_M said:

Don't think we didn't notice the extra set of axles - what's the story with them?  🤔

You are not looking close enough ! Theres a second CB 22 chassis if you look hard enough ....... haven't you played where's Wally ?

As with all these things one thing always leads to another ,and what started as a conversation about bus and charabanc bodies lead to the latest acquisition ! The chassis is a Daimler possibly a CB but more likely a CK will now more once we get into it ,a lot of the smaller brackets are still on it plus a gearbox and steering box so another project in the background .Leyland bus body is on its knees but the roof is a work of art with very little rot and will use this for the basis for the Palladium body but will have to cut a section out the middle to reduce the length.Due to fragile state of the body I had to call in a favour and borrow a friends curtain sider low loader as it was in a state of collapse.

Just found bought the Leyland instruction plate and it turned up today in all its loveliness.