ferret1958uk

Smithy,

I hope to be in with Heathrow and West London Area, with the Triumph and the Slat Grill, come over for a beer!

So you are my neighbour then! I have the Land Rovers next to Heathrow and West London pitch.

Just wondering if you ever got this one?

You can do it online.

Just ignore the blurb about the credit card.

All set up and as always it felt like I had returned home the moment I stepped out onto the fields.

There seem to be a few minor changes noticeable. Getting in was different to the past, but soon sorted - and I suspect later in the week entrances will be back to what we are used to? A few road around the show site have widened, and others have narrowed. Otherwise all looking great.

It is for display ina rather nice carrier I bought off you last year so yes, I am interested. How much, bearing in mind I am in West Sussex? I am heading to W&P show later today, but will be around for another 2 days.

I will be leaving from Sussex to land in the Americas field later this morning.

Hoping that the Reo I can see sat rather close to where I have camped for the past 6 years is not where I planned to camp though? Difficult to see in these photos.

After one of these.

This image was stolen from Clive Elliots post of 2008 vintage where he advertised this can for £10.

Anyone have these laying around?

http://www.argylls1945to1971.co.uk/A_and_SH_Aden1967.htm

Thank you, I now remember where I stole the images from!

Does anyone have an opinion on a Rover 8FFR being done as ex Aden or leave DBG because no history but no sand paint on original panels, therefore I am not strictly being accurate.

 

What would you do if it were your choice chaps.....:cry:

 

Restoration often has these descisions. I have the history, or part history, to my three Land Rover. When restoring I may display them in the colours they left the factory, but they will always bear historic repairs and scars from leter life.

Take the approach of the BBMF. The paint gets changed and renewed each display season to keep the displays fresh. Rover 8s are not too numerous, so why not have fun and try different scenarios? You are the modern custodian. Photograph it, and maintain a history file. Any future custodians can see from your records what it wore and when. You will not confuse history this way, but actively portray it.

Just bear in mind the headaches DVLA love to cause when you change details like the colour... (Is it the same vehicle? Can we inspect it? Why did you paint it, was it because it was severely damaged and is now extensively repaired?)

I'd guess they were DBG base with a sand stripe applied in-theatre. ;o)

The colour is wrong for the DBG used on any of the layers on my Rover 8s. I am almost certain that is Olive.

Were the Rover8's in Aden DBG/Stone, Olive/Stone or Black/Stone cammo.

Looking at some old images and the colours aren't defined enough!

Thanks

So I think it is safe to say;

early GS vehicles were stone,

later FFR vehicles were stone/olive.

It is not safe to assume early FFR were not cammed, and that later GS were cammed.

Attached is a mine plated Rover 8 FFR. (It is either travelling fast or those are not aerials, but cables to a very large helium balloon/ helicopter.) It is stone with olive camoflage, but a slightly different style of cam to the Argylls FFR's. Date unknown, and I can't recall where I stole the image from.

The RAF Fire section at Khormaksar also had a Rover 8. I can only locate images of the Rover 9 atm, but that was bright red. Guessing you may not have been too concerned about the Fire Section Rover 8 though?

Now to advance forwards a few years to 1967, and join the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders in Aden. This period under the command of 'Mad Mitch' is well documented. If you search the ITN archives of the time you will find several bits of film footage, often in colour.

As you can see these Rover 8 FFR's are still Sand, but camoflaged with broad green irregular strips.

Now to really open this up. This is still not green, camoflaged or polka dot, but it does appear to have a white strip across the rear of the bonnet and wings on top of the vehicle. I do not think it is a light area caused by reflection fron the windscreen either as it passes cleanly past the front of the speare wheel mount on the bonnet.

To clarify this is also 16/5th Lancers in Aden 1963-1964. I think this one should be replicated, right down to the L Plate. Never seem to see these at shows.

This is a Rover 8 GS of the 16/5th Lancers taken in Aden circa 1963-64.

I am guessing that this vehicles is not green, camoflaged or polka dot. Judging by the lovely paint job under the bonnet they were expecting the bonnet be up often in public areas!

The first MV I had contact with (and learned to drive in) was GKL 393N - a superb SWB Land Rover Rover 8 FFR. I took it to the second IMPS (later W&P!) Show at Tenterden railway station in 1983 - much to the amazement (and amusement!) of the Jeep owners! It was in really good condition, with most of the original fittings and markings still visible under the paint and was last heard of at a garage in Cornwall, being used as the recovery vehicle and painted bright yellow (I wonder if it's still there?).

 

I am fairly certain it is not still there. In fact there appears to a Land Rover owned (possibly by Rover8FFR on this forum) sporting the very same numberplate. Military reg was 92EL57.

West Sussex Combined Ex Services Association will be holding a two day event in Worthing, West Sussex over

the weekend of 25th 26th June on Steyne Gardens, and would like to invite MV owners to attend over the weekend.

We hold this event every year, including the wonderful drumhead service on Sunday morning, and would love to see some different vehicles on show. Camping in vehicle or military tent is possible, and constant free hot drinks are available along with subsidised food.

There are stalls and stage entertainments on both days except during the drumhead. We have always managed to have a military flypast, and hope to again this year despite the cuts. The BBMF Spitfire has been promised so far.

For application forms please contact:

Janet Goldsbrough-Jones

Secretary

Worthing Combined Ex-Services Association

38 Cranworth Road, Worthing, BN11 2JF

01903 207485

janetgjones@hotmail.com

The user handbook for the Rover cargo vehicles (Army Code 22152) was used for the ambulances; however there was a supplement provided for the ambulance, 2/4 stretcher, 4x4 Rover 11 with Army Code 22153. This supplement was quite small as it was intended to replace certain pages in the normal user handbook. I have a copy of this.

The list of associated publications are:

Parts List - 20873

Servicing Schedule - 60139*

Technical Handbook - EMER Wh. Vehs. Q 022

*Superseded by Army Code No: 60957 which I have a copy of. This is the servicing schedule for Rover mks 3, 5, 6, 7, 8/2, 9/1, 8 &9 FFR, 9 ambulance, 10 & 11 GS FFR and Ambulance, mk1 ½ ton FFR, and the 11 ¼ ton ambulance 2/4 stretcher. Published May 1972.

If you get stuck looking for any of these, then give a shout and I will see if I can get them scanned and put on HMVF for all to see.

This Land Rover, well 00BH78 to be exact, is almost ready to head off for its first MoT in many years having had a full rebuild.

Once that is done it would be nice to put the unit markings back on it. In other photos of 11 Ind Fld Sqn RE in Malaya there is a very poor image of what appears to my vehicle; but I have posted this image as it is clearer for what I am after. The 48 TAC sign would be the RE background with white numerals. The other badge I think is the 28 Commonwealth Infantry Brigade crest. Is this the correct one?

Can anyone confirm the sizes of these markings? I think they are 8½ inches wide and 9 inches tall, but before paying out to have them made I would like this confirmed. Lastly, can anyone point in the right direction for large, clean image of the crest that can used to make a print for the vehicle?

Upon seeing the title my answer would have been that a manual can be produced by anyone, and a publication would be listed with HMSO and copyrighted HMSO.

However that was a guess, and having read you post I have no idea whatsoever. Sorry.

Can you drive an MV?

There are many people that have collections of vehicles that attend the shows. My close family has 9 vehicles (2 adult and 2 children per vehicle) and just 5 drivers. I know of others that are short of drivers as well.

For instance I have 3 land rovers, and only need passes for me and my two sons. Under W&P rules I could get passes for another 5 adults and 4 children. All I need to do is state which vehicle of mine they will be with on the application form.

Oh good! Not midnight yet so I am not too late to wish you a happy birthday.

Happy birthday!

Hello, and a huge welcome to the forum?

You may find it is just the Land Rover owners that say hello to you as the Scammel owners will be stuck in the Scammel section...

I have a small collection of 1950's and 60's Land Rovers. Always good to see another amongst us

you mentioning about bumping back to the top when someone posts is something I had not even given a thought so that might be the best way to keep it at the top so people see it. Thanks for the idea :cool2:

Errr, bump!

I Just had a look at the on line info for my 1930 Austin 7. Date of first registration = XX July 1930, Date of last liability XX XX 1985, Current duty rate for this vehicle = £65 for 6 months!. Hmm

 

The computer records show that by its date of registration that it must be duty exempt! LOL I rest my case.

 

The only reason a long term (pre SORN) vehicle will need SORNing annually following a change of owner is if some halfwit at the DVLA has changed something on the database. In my case they obviously didn't.

They wouldn't have changed the database would they? Have you sent off you V5 or V5C asking for a change of taxation class to 'Historic'? If not then it is not the DVLA's fault that the vehicles in question show as having to pay VED if/ when you choose to return it to the road.

I looked at 17 of the vehicles my family own and you can see the records match exactly to when the vehicles left the road, whether they left before or after historic vehicles were given exemption.

On my Airportables the pedal pivot shaft has a 1/4 UNF bolt/fibre washer in the end of the shaft. Removed the bolt for cleaning, realised if I fit a grease nipple the bronze bearings can be lubricated, then refit the bolt. Just a thought.

Andy.

That is what the hole is for! I read ages ago in one of the Land Rover manuals that you insert a angled grease nipple in there to service the pivot. No idea why it is supposed to be removed again and the bolt refitting?