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    When was the desert DPM pattern introduced

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    Desert DPM introduced during the first Gulf War..........due to the urgent need for the gear, the existing design of tropical combat jacket, trousers and bush hat were used, and the DPM of existing pattern but "simplified" by the use of two colours only..........the usual SCRDE trial and design stages were binned with the first issue of desert DPM due to the sheer urgency.............

     

    Subsequent issues of desert DP during GW1 were simplified to a degree from the original tropical design, all to speed up production............this included the deletion of the rear hip pocket and trouser fly buttons plus even further simplified DPM prints (the so-called "sparse" pattern on account of the - well, sparse cammo overprint).............

     

    By 93-94 after GW1 the desert combat smock was introduced in heavy cotton, identical to the European "Smock, Combat, Temperate" of the era ("big" buttons and zip chest pockets)..............after CS95 clothing was introduced in 95-96 the DPM desert clothing followed a similar design to this.........

     

    Worth noting that the British Army did trial a 4-colour desert DPM between the late-70s and early 80s intended for use by 5 Airborne Brigade but it didn't get past the trial stage as British involvement in a Middle Eastern war was then seen as unlikely............kit made was also based on the existing tropical combats of the time, plus a copy of the para smock and helmet cover were also made it seems.............I have also seen a copy of both the 68 pattern trousers and smock in 4-colour desert, made during the early 80s by "A Grantham Ltd" (MoD Contractor)...........both items UK made and identical to 68 pattern garments of the era in all detail.........a copy of the para smock was also noted............seems these were either late UK trial garments or made for a Middle-Eastern contract..........?

     

    Nice potted history. I do recall Iraq using the 4 colour DPM desert and read this is why we didn't use it in GW1?

    Huge withdrawl of Military vehicles and kit from Afganistan

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    Thats is a lot of kit. The US needing 20,000 container loads and a$3billion cost.

     

    This was interesting too... I would buy a few at this price!

     

    Among them are about 1,600-1,700 US Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected vehicles or MRAPs - the $1m (£604,000), 20-tonne vehicle designed to protect soldiers in Afghanistan from improvised explosive devices, or roadside bombs, that have proved so lethal.

    About 9,000 MRAPs will be shipped back from Afghanistan, but the rest will go up for auction at around $2,000- $5,000 each (£1,200-£3,000).

    What do you collect?

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    I collect a few things;

     

    • US Militaria - specifically relating to US Special Forces and MACV-SOG, specifically named groupings from veterans. I also collate interviews with SOG veterans on the site - as can be seen on my website below
    • Books - any history related books but I like scouring second hand book shops for Churchill related books
    • Small scale models - I have about 900 1/76th-1//72nd scale models...getting out of hand. British softskins being my bag here

     

     

    That kinda keeps me busy along with collecting the vehicles of course

    WW2 British Paint Colours..................

    in British Vehicles

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    Whilst working on my MCC PU8, i have found a very good example of the mid war British Camo scheme, i hope the photos do it justice, but when compared to Mike Starmers colours at the back of his book, the two colours look like Khaki Green base and Tarmac disruptive.

     

    i will remove more of the lime green post war colour, but again thisis a really good reference.

     

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    Fantastic reference. Almost worth preserving like that, but then you would be missing a component for your truck...

    hawkers finest

    in Introductions & Welcomes

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    Hello everyone. My name is Shaun, i'm from Lewes, in East Sussex . I have an interest in the RAF, and visit old airfields , airshows etc. I have a 1942 ford GPW i'm in the process of restoring ( it's long term ), and will be finished as an RAF Regiment jeep, European theatre of operations.

     

    Welcome on board. Nice part of the world Lewes, I store my stuff in Ringmer just up the road

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