MHillyard

I also have a very tatty B2 USAAF Groundcrew jacket...tatty is the oprative word mind you.... but it is a genuine WW2 jacket.

The B2 was made specifically for USAAF ground crews....its the same as a flying jacket but money was saved in their manufacture by not having sleeve zips and by having one central zip (not a sort of double breasted style like the Irvings) and no belt....make a rather cool jacket for riding around in yer Jeep maybe ?

Sounds nice

what sort of price would you be looking at for that?

was just watching Operation Crossbow, on one scene you see either a Diamond T or an Antar pulling away from a V2 launching site

Found these photos, came with several others, they were used for towing artillery. i believe they are mk3 types

found these in a great book called "Making tracks, British carrier story 1914-1972" by P Chamberlain and C Ellis

also got some photos in my personal collection i will post later

the first one is very nice

re-assembly has begun.

That's a nice looking smock.....featuring the commonest modification affected by officers, namely a full zipper fitted....

 

I think in this case the zipper may not be from an oversmock......almost all are on a chocolate-brown or tan base (unless this one has faded ?) but zips were available from other sources, including RAF flying clothing, commercial sources, etc....

 

As for the flap covering the zip, the top part is probably part of the original issue smock over-flap, and the lower portion (that does not quite reach the lower edge of the garment) is probably made from the original inner windflap fitted beneath the zipper.........???

 

Rare to see a wartime second pattern smock in a size 8, the largest manufactured....

ive had several just post war jackets modified to zips and i can see why, they are a lot easier

I see no Dodge?

sorry my mistake

i need to start rummaging to see if i have something like this!

expensive and in Greece, probably collection only aswel:cool2:

That is a firewall, strange that the Bedford refueller never had them, but if you look at the cab there are differences, and headlamps are further forward, the Autocar has a short bonnet which fits the photo.

Ah yes i see now, were these common as tankers?

The bottom photo is not a Bedford QL. I have a feeling it is an Autocar, or some other American truck.

i see, it does look slightly different, like the wall separating the cab from the tank?

Also found these nice ones of the tanker, came from a group of photos of a squadron somewhere with b26 marauders, some nice shots of the aircraft came with it.

Taken a look through my photo albums and found this which i think is right.

got a few more ill scan in.

im pretty sure these are matadors, some photos in my collection from a group of engineers.

not sure if this is or not

i believe the tanks used in Bridge at Remagen are post war like used in Battle of the Bulge

is the 3rd from bottom a hotchkiss jeep for recoilless rifle mounting?

Dodge looks nice

it seems like a very nice example, i think it will go for over 200

is there anything special about these expensive smocks or are they just the standard issue?

Really need to see if there is a little stamped mark in the crown or are there any marking underneath the remaining webbing? However a "no mark" could indicate a Hawley according to my book*. Again according to the book* there were 10 manufactures over the wartime period but the other nine should have been stamped in the crown ie HR, SC, capac, firestone, S, W, inland, IMP and MSA.

 

*Steel Pots by Chris Arnold

Just found a little stamp in there and it is 1953 unfortunately

I think you may be correct...across the board - late pattern Denisons; 60 Pattern gear and even 68 pattern clothing seems to be attracting a premium. A couple of size 9 60 pattern smocks also sold for between £145 - £175 this evening:shocked:

Still seems very expensive to me

that seems a bit excessive to me :-)

I would say looking at the pictures £20 - £40 each max as they need some work and I am not really sure from looking at the pictures they are both American issue, I would hazard a guess the heat stamped one is but the other could be European US style ie Belgium. If they were fixed bail that would be a different story with regards "worth".

 

Best bet is for Enigma to comment as he has a more indepth knowledge on US pots.

 

Sorry not much help

 

Paul

Thanks for the help

what age do you think the first liner is, i know the last is post-war dated