Einbeck Bowl

Yep, I am already registered. Frame TL15254, Contract 1630, Engine 3s 35244.

Earlier this week there was a nearly complete 3sw fork on ebay/Italy, but the auction was ended on 14.April "because of an error in the listing". I guess this means it was sold outside ebay. And before that I had found the main fork shaft in Austria. Seller returned the money, as he couldn´t find it anymore.

Oliver (50WLH, 43WLA, 44WLA and ... 1/2 Triumph 3sw:D)

Thanks again for pictures and information. So I am still only the owner of a 3sw unicycle.:cry:

That ebay item looks very similiar to the drawing in my "Triumph Replacement Parts 1939 Models" manual. That auction did end last year without bids, but it is most likely gone by now, as it was never relisted. It was listed as Triumph yoke, 123,9 mm wide with 11,13 mm fork stem hole. Just wondering if this is what I have to look for.

Regards

Oliver

This was on ebay last year (350 £, no bids), is this a 3sw top yoke? The drawings in the Triumph manuals are not the best source for searching for missing fork parts.

And if somebody knows a dealer with a barn full of 3sw fork parts, I only have the main fork, front fender and the spring so far.

Oliver

I was aware that the Luftwaffe had something to do with the end of the 3sw production, but not that they landed in Coventry and took them with them.

Not helpful for choosing a colour, but at least a wartime colour picture

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Germany---Air/Fieseler-Fi-156...-Storch/1070483/M/

I hope Peter kept an eye looking for my missing 3sw fork parts in Holland

On 23.July a new motorcycle and car museum will open in my hometown (Einbeck), on the other side of the Weser river, 50 km to the east from Vahlbruch.

German text and yet no vehicle pictures:

http://www.ps-speicher.de/neuigkeiten.php

You were in Vahlbruch yesterday? This is Falkenhagen, then and now, the next village to the south.

 

As Ron says, it's an odd colour. Brownish in some lights, greenish in others but most definitely not olive drab.

 

It is a indeed an odd colour, as I have failed to find anything close like that in any paint system, online or printed. The few remnants of paint that I have found so far on the frame are more or less similiar to this green:

http://www.blancoandbull.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/10-4673-11a.jpg

Well, I seem to have a lot of time to search for that colour as the attachments to screw the fork to the frame seem to be hard to find. My 3sw fork has finally arrived and I seem to be on the safe side with it.

Oliver

Ron, do the last three pictures show the same bike? Just inside/flashside and natural lighting differences?

Still hoping to find "original paint" on my Triumph frame when removing the engine. I seem to be the only owner of an allied WWII motorcycle in the area where I live ("Einbeck Bowl" was a BAOR term for a potential attack route for russian tanks in the 1970s and 1980s). One large car/motorcycle museum will open this year in Einbeck, but most likely without any military stuff, to avoid negative reactions. By the way, there is a BSA folding bicycle ("early civilian production") and a french "Captain Gerard" military folding bicycle from about 1896 in the local town museum.

Oliver

Ron, I hope my fork, if it ever arrives, has started its life in the UK. And I am talking about the part located in Europe.

I hope that Mr. Whitley is still alive and well, even if I wonder why the last post is from 2012: http://www.britbike.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=349145&page=1

Guy, tell your neighbour to lock it away until I have found all missing fork parts. And rear stand. And tool box. I have still my problems of choosing a colour.

Is there an explanation why there is an oliv green colour on this Norton fuel tank preserved by the rubber pads? According to the text this fuel tank is a Dunkirk survivor. Isn´t this a oliv green basecoat overpainted with Khaki Green?

http://www.wdnorton.nl/Interesting%20original%20parts.htm

Oliver

Still waiting for the NOS girder fork and Triumph manuals to arrive. How are the chances to find the main shaft connecting fork and frame? Is this a 3sw-only-part or was the same part used in other Triumphs?

Oliver

F&F in Belgium is selling those triumph fieldstand clips.

there website in in Dutch but they speak perfect English

 

Nice, they also have knee rubbers. I had John Bull No. 25 on my tank.

Under the gearbox I found this paint. I have seen restored WD motorcycles painted in similar shades of this brownish colour, could this be a choice for a 1940 machine?

Thanks, another helpful picture. Is that a clamp to hold your field stand in place on the bike when not in use? There was something welded to my frame on my project. Still looking for a rear stand, tool box, some front fork parts and rear carrier.

And is there an easy guide to find the correct colour for a 1940 3sw?

Oliver

Thanks, I have found a seat, which needs a new cover. Now the Triumph looks like a motorcycle. Turned out to be easy, as Cornucopia in Vahlbruch/Germany is only 50km away from me: Several barns full of 1930/1940s british bike parts, rooms full of engines, gear boxes, military tool boxes.

Sadly no 3sw front fork, just a 3hw. (problem solved a few hours later, found one, new old stock)

What I am looking for at the moment are the mounting parts, top and bottom, for the military side stand, which I also got from Peter Long/Cornucopia. He told me that I am missing the upper attachment bracket on my frame, but only from this forum I know that the 3sw side stand bracket was only bolted to the frame, not welded.

Oliver

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As Ron said, definitely a Royal Enfield front end. WD/CO type 2 (early 1944 onwards) to be precise: the extra tube on the headstock can clearly be seen (in a cut off state...). It would be nice to know the frame number that is stamped on this headstock!

 

Regards,

Jan

Gentleman, the remains have been indentified as WD/CO number 18157. My condolences to the Royal Enfield family. Those who knew 18157 will remember him as a true warrior, no civilian paint visible on frame, fork or fender. It might be a consolation for us all that the front fork from 18157 might live on in somebodys future project.

I will try to find the frame number under that rust and dirt. You know where to find me in case you see a cheap Royal Enfield with Triumph 3sw front fork.

While we are on the subject of 3sw forks, that is the one I have on the 3sw (Frame TL15254, engine "3s" 35244. Is it from a Triumph Speed Twin?

I know. The german importer of Mahindra Jeeps, back then when they were the Willys CJ3 type with Peugeot engines, told me the only problem he had with those vehicles: He had to re-weld the frames in Malta and the bodys needed complete new welding in Germany.

Wow, that was quick. Thanks. And I guess finding an original 3sw fork will not be easy. Otherwise no 3sw fork copies would be produced in India.

Is it possible to identify this girder fork? I am completly new to British motorcycles and there are not enough details visible in the few books that I own.

Thanks

Oliver (Triumph 3sw since today, but with a post-war front fork)

Hello, I have just purchased a Triumph 3SW. One part which is missing is the complete seat. Is there an easy way of finding a seat for a 3SW? I can´t find much information about such details for a restoration.

Regards

Oliver

Well, acctually Einbeck near the Harz Mountains, central Germany. Hopefully this year Einbeck will be home of a new museum called "P.S.Speicher" for ancient cars and motorcycles. The owner seems to have some military stuff, but this will be not on display, as far as I know. But if you are into early motorcycles, this might be a place to go later this year.

To make a long story short, I joint this forum because of Triumph 3SW, which I purchased yesterday. My first British vehicle. Will be fun to compare it to my Harley Flatheads (WLA, WLH). That´s not fair, you say? Well, I am German....so what did you expect? :-D

So a Triumph 3SW, why? More or less because it was cheap and seems to be a good start to learn about "ze Britische Motorraiders".

About me. Born in the 1960, (west-) German Army in the 1980s, Willys Jeep owner (MB,MC and a MD project). Further interests - the "Sherwood Rangers" and their rather short time in my hometown in the second half of 1945, US advance between Paderborn and the Harz Mountains in late March/April ´45.

Got to go now, I have to stir my Sauerkraut for lunch.

Oliver

Hello, this is a closeup of "Robin Hood" in 1945 during the final parade of the "Sherwood Rangers" in my hometown of Einbeck/Germany. I won this photo on ebay, but sadly the photo was lost during shipment!

There seems to be little known about the early post war occupation in my hometown. In April 1945 the town was taken without a fight by US forces, but a group of local Hitlerjugend kids died when they tried to stop the Americans in a nearby village. Strange to see so many children watching the parade, only two and half years later.

Does anybody know where I can find more information about the SRY in the postwar months?

Oliver

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Edited 2014 : Now, two years later, it is clear that the picture was taken in 1945, not in 1947.