jchinuk

Does anyone know where i can get a copy of Issue 48 of the magazine.... are the publishers still around?

"After the Battle" (http://www.afterthebattle.com/) are (were) the publishers, but they don't seem to mention W&T on their site.

jch

JCH,

 

Check the date on that post, it was about six weeks ago.

Duh!

jch

I shot this at the Battlefront museum, Snetterton last weekend and could not get any details from the staff, any ideas?

 

Rob

The lights and reflective triangles suggest a trailer designed for UK roads?

jch

is that why today i saw a spitfire on a truck at j1 of the m5 going nort at 12 oclock today

I'm confused, isn't this show in Essex, so "going North on the M5" seems wrong to me.

jch

I may have some inside info on that, cant say anything at the mo though.

Will they have to make the gift shop bigger?

On a serious note, if there is any large movement of vehicles to another site (even another location on the Duxford site) surely any costs saved over the winter will be minimal?

jch

Have just been told this, today, by a work colleage, an avid MV modeller and member of Friends od Duxford.

 

The Land Warfare building will be closing during the winter months as a cost cutting exercise.

 

Worth bearing in mind if you are thinking of visiting.

 

However the only way that I really see this saving any money is if the lighting (not much anyway) and the heating/climat control is turned off. This will probably be detrimental to the exhibits.

 

Has anybody heard anything else and if further closures (even part time) are planned.

 

Mike

I wonder what will be regarded as the "winter months"? Surely the Christmas period is relatively busy for example?

I agree that I don't quite understand how much money will be saved assuming some heating is kept "on" and I wasn't aware there were lights anyway :-).

The museum seems to regard the LWH as an unwanted embarrassment, all the effort seems to be concentrated to the Eastern eand of the site.

jch

Is the fear of a revolution the reason for the 1920 law that started the abolition of firearms in UK?

 

Andrea

Good point, contemporary accounts suggest that a fair number of people thought that the Russian Revolution would spread across Europe, which was certainly the aim of the Soviet revolutionaries.

jch

just found out 265 tanks were donated to citys and towns after the war,in recognition of the war efforts......

The only survivor is the one in Ashford, Kent, which houses an electricity sub-station! :shocked: Thankfully the 'Ashford Tank' is now under a cover. :-)

I have read that only 'female' tanks were donated to towns that had contributed to tank funds during the war. The tanks had the guns removed and were disabled, in the post Russian revolution period there was concern that these monuments would give any potential British revolutionaries access to armoured vehicles! In reality most town had scrapped them by the thirties.

One odder post-war use of WW1 tanks were the two fitted with seats (on top) and used to give rides in Southend-on-Sea in the early twenties. It must be remembered that the tank entered into popular culture after they were revealed to the public.

The US used helicopters for casualty evacuation in Burma,

Hanna Reitch (sp?) the German test pilot used to fly early Germany helicopters INDOORS as a party trick in the Thirties, she also test piloted rocket fighters like the Me163 and flew in and out of Berlin during the last Soviet assault.

jch

At IWM Duxford in the 'Mess' canteen the policy seems to be that you must have a revolting pile of wilting salad with your jacket potato whether you want it or not. I insisted it was removed and the reaction I got was one of hostile indignation!

Ah, that's Jamie 'Mockney' Oliver's food police, a different branch of jobsworths!

jch

I know that the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich has a blanket no photo policy inside and out and every item is copyrighted, this costs them money to renew each year as new items arrive but the copyright overlall lasts 75 years, so they can make their money selling post cards and pamphlets about exhibits and of course charging for giving permission to use an item in a publication,TV programme or film.

As I suggested above, I wonder if this has ever been tested in court, after all, when I buy a car or picture I don't "own" the copyrights?

jch

illuminate! Illuminate! Illuminate!

 

The two Cromwells were in fact genuine, also a Centaur was used. As the Cromwell was derived from the Centaur, at a glance, you could get away with it. Better than a mock up thats for sure.

 

Richard

From memory the Cromwell / Centaur were unpowered (or should I say not runners) and towed by a hidden cable.

jch

I must say that the 'No Photography' rule is one that puts me off going to a Museum, especially if I have paid to get in.

I tend to agree, though I think Lincoln Cathedral (and possibly others) still offer a 'photo license' for a small consideration, which makes sense as they don't charge for admission.

jch

Thanks for all the responses, I understand the restrictions on active bases, though the Hawkinge museum is in the middle of a rather souless housing estate! Having said that, I've taken photos (with permission) inside Luggershall, Ashchurch and the D&M school at Bovington, the only concern was that the photos did not give the positions of the buildings, a concern rather negated in recent years by Google Earth!

I recall the RAF Museum at Hendon had a "no flash" rule at one point, though that was apparently because flashes were triggering the fire alarm, but photography was still permitted. I'm not convinced by the 'flashes cause damage' excuse, possibly if the flashes were constantly repeated over a period and the same museums often leave stuff outside to fade anyway.

Some museums feel there is a "copyright" issue, but as far as I am aware that is just one interpretation of the current law, and unproven in court.

What seems petty and pointless is the ban on note books.

By the way virtually all the exhibits at Hawkinge are replicas anyway.

jch

I found the following on the website and adverts for the "Kent Battle of Britain Museum",

"In keeping with common practice, on grounds of both security and copyright, we regret that no cameras, video recorders or any other types of recording equipment (including notebooks) are allowed in the Museum."

For a start I'd argue fairly strongly that it's not "common policy", the only other museum I can think of is the "Cars of the Stars" museum, but that issues with film and TV copyrights.

It's the banning of 'notebooks' that I find most amazinf, what if someone has a photographic memory, do they get a brain wipe?

jch

Unless its moved again recently the Crusader and rectank (railway tank transporter) is at the Locomotive Railway Museum at Slidon in Co.Durham.

 

The ex Stainburn Moor, ex Berverley Churchill Mk2 is at Bovington.

I'll bow to recent knowledge, I was talking a few years ago regarding the Crusader.

I forgot to add that some items (notably 'Kitchener's coach) is at Chatham as part of the RE Museum's 'large exhibits' collection.

jch

Does anybody know what happened to the vehicles that were at the Museum of Military Transport in Beverley? Kind of liked that one, had sone nice displays and equipment. Last time I was there was in 96 (when I bought my FOX and BRDM).

The old MoAT collection, which was essentially "owned" by the NAM has been dispersed.

The railway items have gone to railway related collections, the 'cutaway Crusader' on it's railway wagon is at the NRM in York, the narrow gauge rolling stock is at a railway in Lincolnshire. A lot of the one-off vehicles are at the REME reserve (not open to the public) collection at Borden. Some armoured vehicle ended up at Bovington. No sure what happened to all the ex-Iraqi softskins and artillery.

jch

Last summer I spent a couple of hours in the National Army Museum whilst waiting for a funeral next door in the Chelsea Hospital.

I visited the NAM once while it was hosting a 'London Fashion Week' event, some galleries closed and set out as "cat walk", though there were a lot of very tall young ladies about the place...:nut:

jch

I'm only a researcher and model maker, pending more space!:nut:

Main interests are British and Allied military vehicles of all periods.

Great forums.

jch