jchinuk

30 minutes ago, ruxy said:

Disgusting situation  , its the North/South divide - where can a party of school children be taken to view a gun-tank or private individual go in the North of England  ? or for that matter Scotland.  State museums have a education responsibility..

IWM (North) is in Manchester, there is a small selection of armour at the museum next to the Nissan plant at Sunderland.

That said, the IWM seems more interested in the likes of the "Greenham Common Women" these days, than the hardware of conflict.

jch

Some, ex-Beverley, exhibits are (or at least were) on display at the Chatham Historic Dockyard.  At least they were under cover.

55 minutes ago, Richard Farrant said:

I thought the NAM had a large storage facility (Stevenage comes to mind). About 8 years ago the Tank Museum stored the NAM vehicle collection in their new Vehicle Conservation Centre  while the NAM had work done on their storage building. I had a brief walk around the vehicles at that time and recall some rare vehicles.

Sorry, I meant to display larger exhibits to the public.

jch

3 minutes ago, wally dugan said:

This what l was told the museum sold it and it was sold again to a large private collection in the UK

Interesting.  I assumed, like most of the Beverley, collection it was owned by the National Army Museum.  It was only at "Locomotion" as it arrived on the warflat for their display.

That said, the NAM has no location for it's bigger exhibits.

Thanks for the response.

JCH

I visited "Locomotion" at Shildon earlier this week and I noticed that the cutaway A15 Crusader Mk.II on the warflat (previously in the Beverley Museum) has been replaced by a Universal Carrier.

I enquired about it, but the staff I spoke to seemed to think that as the Carrier had tracks it was a "tank".

I visited pursuing one of my other interests, very early steam locomotives, but I wonder if any one here knows where the tank has gone?

Thanks in advance.

JCH

A quick search of the internet shows that the White Cross of a Green Background is now used as the symbol for 'First Aid' equipment because the UK agreed to comply with ISO 7010 in 2012; for all graphical safety signage. https://www.iso.org/standard/54432.html

The European Union adopted it as EN ISO 7010 and the UK implemented it through BS EN ISO 7010, replacing the previous regulation BS 5499. I'm no lawyer but I guess that is why everyone in the UK has to use the new symbols.

Certainly all the first aid boxes at work were green with white crosses before I retired last year.

jh

I missed this yesterday when looking at the First Ministers statement, question is what about historic vehicles? The policy is different from Central Government

 

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/scotland-to-ban-petrol-and-diesel-car-sales-by-2032/ar-AArlFT2?li=AA8sb7&ocid=ientp

Don't worry, it will become an "aspiration" after a few years when they discover it's impossible.

jh

and another one still courtesy of Photobucket

 

Just remove the URL & post the

The clue is in the thumbnail above, Photobucket just don't want people linking to 'third party' sites without getting some cash. Your original Photobucket folder is unchanged, which is why you can still see the pictures there, they have just stopped linking to external sites, I assume you can still share with other PB users.

Google offers free hosting

jh

If you wade through the civilian 4x4s (interesting in themselves), this chap has some nice rare and nicely restored MVs in Hong Kong, http://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/this-man-is-the-four-wheel-drive-king-of-the-world-and-1795407444?utm_source=jalopnik_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2017-06-09

jh

The Times , Saturday 27th May 2017

 

The idea of the Home Guard having tanks sounds like an unmade "Dad's Army" plot?

jh

I was wondering if any of you had any information about where all the German military vehicles were obtained from for the film 'Where Eagles Dare?' I know that some at least came from the Austrian Army e.g. the 1958 Saurer APC which appears in the film. What about the others? I believe 16 Kubelwagens were used in the filming and only two survived!

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Colin'

Details here, http://www.imcdb.org/movie_65207-Where-Eagles-Dare.html

jh

I think you may be re-opening old wounds here!

 

The fate of these was instrumental in some of us trying to organise to save others from a similar fate.

I can only apologise and plead ignorance. I'd not seen these tanks mentioned before.

jh

These photos were put up on Facebook earlier

They were removed from the Haltern Training Area last year (2016) to a scrapyard in Aachen.

jh

Clive

 

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Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Tankfest very much a case of - stand behind the barriers, watch everything thunder around, but no interaction with the vehicles - more like a display than a hands on access event/show?

 

I just looked up the entry price, glad I was sitting down.

£110.00 per person per day x family of 4 - converted to Aussie$ = $712 ouch!

Equivalent to 6 days car hire in UK.

 

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To be honest any show involving moving armour (indeed any vehicles) is going to be a 'behind the barrier' deal these days, health & safety and insurance requirements. I'm not sure what interaction you are hoping for, but climbing on tanks is not encouraged much either for the same reasons, though the modern equipment displays at the TM usually permit it, ladders and gantries being provided.

I'm a bit baffled by the prices you quote, the TM website gives £38 per adult for a weekend ticket and £23 per day, the £110 is a premium ticket, which seems a lot (in my opinion) extra for a seat, food and drink and a programme? The premium tickets do not claim to give greater access to the vehicles.

jh

The prices are truly bonkers! There appears to be a netherworld populated by people with a great deal more money than knowledge who see these things as investments........which I guess they are, in that netherworld. Unfortunately some of this nonsense trickles down to the real world where real owners not only have to be able to afford to buy vehicles, but to fix and actually run them.

I guess that these prices are bonkers, yet they are probably lower than a lot of "classic" cars which are seen as investments?

jh

I was just perusing a thread where the poster stated the images contained with in the thread were his and were not to be copied and used elsewhere.

 

This got me to thinking about an event that occurred a few years back. Top Gear the Tv programme were filming a stunt with a Veyron on our unit which was to be aired in the next series. Obviously this was exciting for the whole unit and every man and his dog were out taking photos and videos and pasting them all over social media and YouTube. The BBC were not amused and complained to the MOD that their programme was being undermined by the posting of private images and video on the Internet.

 

The MOD responded by broadcasting to the unit that all images and videography taken on MOD property, was and remained the property of the MOD regardless of who took them and action would be taken against those that infringe upon them. So for those that claim copyright on images taken on MOD property, just be aware that it may not be the case. Don't get me wrong, the chances of the MOD claiming rights is 99.9% not going to happen but if there was a copyright infringement by an individual, and the alleged owner took action, there's a good chance it will be thrown out as technically you are not the copyright owner.

 

(No action was ever taken by the BBC or the MOD but the threat was there. There are other stories too but I shan't go into those).

It's odd because the internet (or parts of it) features plenty of photos of the crews filming "Doctor Who" or "Top Gear" if they are filming in a public place, so it seems a tad churlish to complain about photos taken on private property or in the MoD's case 'Crown Property'.

jh

Radio 4 is very informative and a few years ago there was a programme about copywrite. The knowledgeable person said that copywrite remained with the camera operator who activated the shutter and this would last for 70 (?) years. I have taken many photographs on MoD property and I am not concerned whatsoever about publishing on line or in print

Sorry to be a pendant, but it's "copyright", the right to copy!

jh

Strangely enough, whilst driving down the A31 near Canford Bottom this morning I saw a car with a very similar covering, although it might have been Astroturf! I didn't have time to take a proper look once I'd picked my jaw up off the floor ...

 

Andy

I've seen firms selling artificial lawns that have their vans covered in 'grass', I presume as advertising.

jh

I think a Merlin rotates in opposite direction, so they would had faster reverse gears than forward.

Probably a Meteor engine!

Good point, but the account says, "..The Air Corps had five other Merlins ready - including numbers 191406, 190911 and 191281. These were all Merlin Mk. 55M engines formerly fitted in Air Corps Vickers Supermarine VS.506 Seafire LF III fighters"

Though it also mentions that the superchargers were removed!

jh

Having just seen the vid of the ferrit with a V8 in it i was wondering has any one fitted a far better engine in tank . removed the flat 6 E Type motor and fitted a V8 or a big landrover diesel something with a lot more power . or is it even possible with the gear box .

I believe the Irish Defence Force put a Merlin in a Churchill.http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12989.0;wap

jh

We went to Bletchley park after hearing many interesting stories. Very impressive peace of work bij Alan Turing. Most of you will not know but Mick Jagger has great interest in code breaking he owns a 4 wheel enigma and directed "the imitation game" film.

 

Not sure who told you that, but Morten Tyldum directed "The Imitation Game", Mr. Jagger might own a Enigma machine, but he neither directed nor produced that film.

Mr. Jagger was one of dozen or so producers of a film called 'Enigma' in 2001, though he did not direct that either.

jh

So as i understand there are a large amount of rare military vehicles sat up at the former RAF base at Folkingham, in Lincolnshire. I have to ask.

 

Is the land containing these old vehicles still MOD property or is it privately owned?

 

Also does anyone know whether the owner/s intend to ever sell off some of these rare machines (such as the Antar's)? and, has anyone actually recovered some vehicles from the site?

 

Any response would be appreciated.

Some pictures here, http://www.derelictplaces.co.uk/main/misc-sites/32698-raf-folkingham-digger-graveyard-feb-2016-a.html#.V7gWWSgrKM8

I assume, judging by the nature of the website, that the pictures were taken unofficially.

jh

It would be nice to have a repository for scanned manuals even though this involves some bandwidth and storage space.

 

I just scanned the 2003 instructor's manual for the CVR(T) Spartan, anyone wanting a copy can PM me.

Dropbox seems efficient for such storage, though to get a reasonable amount costs £7.99/month.

jh

Having a Land Rover which was upgraded by the British Army, I understand it was called "Operation Tithonus" does any one have any information on this?

Many Thanks

Just add, I found this with Google, http://www.wingsaviation.aero/sales/cars/15-cars/42-land-rover-1985-rhd-tithonus-lep

It seems some got to the US.

jh

It is Hawkspares, ????green, Kent The AEC had a Perkins P6 in it and no turret. Saw it in the early part of this century it was not at the main yard but stored in building away in the countryside.

If it's Hawkspares, Google Earth reveals a modern yard, but behind it is a large overgrown area with hints of rusting objects, though you can't determine anything in detail.

jh