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9 hours ago, LarryH57 said:
The Historic Wings site <https://fly.historicwings.com/2013/04/operation-tungsten/> credits the image thus: Fleet Air Arm personnel fusing bombs for Fairey Barracudas on the deck of HMS Victorious the day before Operation TUNGSTEN. Credit: IWM <https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205188895>
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6 hours ago, 10FM68 said:
Aren't they simply putting bombs together? Fuses one end and fins the other?
Before reading the thread, I looked at the image and saw bombs (500lb MC?, single British lug uppermost) being fuzed (i.e., having pistols fitted) and having drum tails fitted. I did not interpret it as a Naval BD class: there are just too many new fuzes/pistols and transit boxes visible. Having now looked more carefully, I'm still of that view. The only other observation I would make is that for a land-based photo, the horizon seems very flat. Whatever the case, great photo!
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Just to add, the helmet shown below (dated Feb 41) was worn by a family member during WW2. The 'A', I think, relates to 'ambulance'. The Zuckerman helmets were not provided with chin straps: so many variations, from laces to Brodie straps are noted. This one has a thick leather band - probably an old belt.
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In the interests of completeness - as the M2 has avoided my somewhat less than diligent search efforts to locate it here - attached are some images of the M2 Amphibious Bridge/Ferrying Equipment. If anyone has an M2 (not an entry-level project, I am thinking), I'd love to see how the years have treated it!
All the best.
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Morning - the contract would have been mid to late 80s. If you look at page one of this thread, Edward53's original list shows the following:
SL31b/2877 – OD foul weather jacket, Mileta Sports Ltd, 1987
So, I'd say 1986?
All the best.
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2 hours ago, Citroman said:
One of these tins was left after the war in my grand parents chicken hut....together with an american wooden ammobox with rope handles. But the last was very rotten. The metal one must still be somerwhere in my cellar.
Can you remember if it still showed the stencilling?
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Afternoon. I think your tin was probably painted to match an old Land Rover! I have a H50 box in a darker blue which, it has been suggested, denotes ammunition natures supplied to police and other non-MoD users. This comes under the heading of interesting to know but not verified! The 'Tales from the supply depot' link is useful.
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9 hours ago, ted angus said:
Indeed Adrian no doubt there would have been variations or examples of ignoring the regs. Ted
Morning Ted - interesting that this Brodie is marked W/FG; I missed that last night <https://www.ww2civildefence.co.uk/fire-guards-watchers.html>
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Evening Ted, The Table of markings is interesting but I can't help but feel there may have been variations? Nice images. <https://www.ww2civildefence.co.uk/fire-guards-watchers.html>
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23 minutes ago, ted angus said:
Have a look under fire guard on the same site, afraid i am on my tablet and havent a clue how to put on a link. Ted
Thanks Ted, I'll have a look.
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1 hour ago, ted angus said:
W is the marking for a warden. Wardens were not issued with Zucherman. FG is the marking for fire guard. , Only fire guard officers wore white helmets, and these were of the brodie pattern. Even the most senior only had 1 wide band and 2 narrow bands. So i would scratch my head over this one. An excellent place for ww2 CD info is ww2civildefence.co.uk.
<http://josephs-militaria-and-homefront-collection.co.uk/PAGE16.HTML> Nice image of Fire Guards in Zuckerman and Brodie.
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Limited but interesting <https://www.ww2civildefence.co.uk/blog/fake-zuckerman-helmet-markings>
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Not sure about this one <https://homefrontcollection.com/shop.php?ps=1&pg=46>
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From: <https://www.warehouse701.co.uk/authentic-wwii-fire-and-warden-tin-hats-or-helmets>
"...a distinctive white Zuckerman helmet with three black rank bands and bearing the letters 'FG'. These were worn by individuals acting as Fire Guards under the Fire Watchers scheme, to help identify and deal with small fires within the local area. Small teams would search out incendiary bombs, secondary fires and other similar threats following air raids etc. The three black bands denote this belonged to an area Officer or Captain."
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Evening Ted. I've not seen this combination of marking before either but, given the relatively low value of Zuckerman helmets, I'm not sure anyone would spend the time and effort to fake the tat-bazar example. (I think most helmet fraudsters are getting handy with Normandy cam on Spanish helmets, etc.) I have, however, seen some very oddly painted - but absolutely period - Zuckerman: particularly those associated with commercial concerns. I look forward to hearing more!
All the very best.
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