gunner501

The 63 pattern first appeared during 1964.....it was a standardisation of the full-zip design (as per the 59 pattern Denison) and there is a possibility that the very first models were in the old wartime cammo..........

 

First common issues of the green 63 windproof suit started in 1964 and the last were made during 1970.........fabric was the usual 100% cotton-gabardine..........

 

During 1970-71 the DPM version was introduced alongside the same cammo for the rest of the Army.......it was intended to replace the green version......the DPM version lasted on issue up to 1975-76 when the "Smock, Windproof, Camouflage" replaced it.........the DPM 63 pattern suit was made in the heavier cotton combat smock fabric rather than the lightweight gabardine.....

 

So the green suit dates between 64 and 70, the DPM version between 70 and 75-76.........

 

Oddly, the same NSN's were used for the green and DPM versions........

THAT,S GREAT INFO THANKS FOR POSTING ! The full zip info is intresting in that there seems to be as well as items made to this standard others that were brought up to this spec, ie as you say WW2 Windproofs and IMO Smocks Denison many size 7 ww2 smocks can be found with post war full length zips fitted these often still being near mint with a red ex over the label . behind the zip is a flap of cloth made from often three pieces of fabric joined some in camo and others in denim . Did the very pink smocks produced post ww2 have full zips as a standard ????

Alas I have no trousers for either of the smocks but heres some more pics

Heres the label on my 63 pattern and yes your,e right it,s the same NSN .I also get the feeling the green smocks earlier but am not knowledgable enough on the scince of some of this coding etc etc .

Yes the sellers pics were c**p and did his sale no good ,but did me a huge favour .These smocks seem to crop up in quite a few photos of SAS Guys in the 70,s are these possibly earlier than the DPM Versions ?

The smock shows good hard use but as one would expect and if anything give this garment a more historic apperance

Here she is Gents ,the fabric is exactly as on late WW2 JUNGLE UNIFORMS !

Hi Mark ,Thats a nice catch! 90,s on I,d hazard a guess,like you have said . I think these true SF cut versions are worth getting your,e hands on now ,quite a few seem to have come out via the SFSG in the last few years .The tape on buttons started mid 90,s if my memory serves me well . They wer,nt too well applied and threads either pulled lose or wore through.

cheers Ollie

Hi ,From another ex Rock new member

i Olllie did you play with Rapier?

Hi Mate , No I was too thick ,, Greenham with the yanks and then CVRT all the way

Just a quick intro to say hi . my name is Ollie although born in sunny Devon I,m now living and working north of london here

in Herts . my reason for joining is my interest in Military uniforms and gear ,particularly British post 45 . I collect far too much of this old rubbish and hope to meet likeminded addicts . I have served in both the Army and RAF as a soldier and am now a civvy