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as found by fellow german forum members

thanks all involved

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Thanks Clive - again something new for me.

I guess these informations are not made available to the world by the SEME people? In other words, nothing one could buy in book form?

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Found in Land Rover précis notes by SEME

 

Clive! Top man! thats great! Many thanks for finding this!

Another mystery solved.

Is there any chance to see what "pécis" notes by SEME are?

I just would love to know where this comes from.

many great thanks indeed!

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bit of an update, currently working on the engine.

This is the engine from the BGS vehicle, 1965 B suffix vehicle, into dispatch 14.04.1965 and out of dispatch 22.04.1965

The engine has a foundry date of 17.11.1964 - so probably about correct?

Its engine number is 25206273F

Its a CBS made block. I guess CBS is the foundry?

The piston marks are B C B C (front to back) (punched into th ecast block just under the head gasket flange on the left side of the engine)

The marks on top of the distributor flange are:

"PPT 10" (double stamped)

"RCT 88"

"B" and "K"

all those seem to be quality check marks.

541874 must be a manufacturers (foundry) number from CBS

The punched figures on the dynamo fixing flange seem to be 798 or 708 and some small numbers just in front of them. (might be a S or 5)

I have no idea what those might be.

There is also a 500 punched into the oil pan gasket flange on the bottom of the engine block. (no pic yet)

The colour I used for this block is "light admiralty grey" and it "sort of" matches what I have found inside the housing behind the flyhweel

fixing flanges. Bearing in mind 50+ odd years of heat and use.

Two pics above, one with flash, one without to check colour.

What is the general opinion on engine vs chassis date?

The engine which came with the vehicle was a diesel. The petrol block above was sourced to be "as correct as possible" being an "F" suffix.

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Hi all,

many thanks for giving ideas and hints! Much appreciated.

We are nearing in the possibility of sheathing. I have found some german wiring diagramms with military use and there the circles indeed mean sheathing (not screening).

It also makes sense, as the headlamp wires are located behind/above the plate rectifier which can get hot, so some sort of heat protection would make sense.

Same goes for the wires to the amp-meters - those are connected through the bulkhead and woul dbenefit from some sort of chafing protection for thick(ish) wires.

the headlamps would have been standard Lucas jobbies in military rims, so pretty much as every other Mil Landrover of that time. No local Bosch headlamps etc. Just standard british 7 inch.

The only german stuff in that electric playgame would have been the blue rotating light being a Hella unit and the two tone horns being from Bosch. The relevant switches and relais are also all from Bosch.

The spare parts book for these special vehicles even give details what has been installed in solihull and what has been fitted by the "customer" later on over here in Germany. (thats only wheel chocks and some small stuff)

The BGS (federal border patrol) vehicle has been pretty much complete once it left the Solihull factory.

Thanks for all your valuable ideas and comments,

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Anybody on here knows why the U and Y for example are circled in the below wiring diagramm?

(BGS Landrover, based on Rover 8 FFR, so 24 Volts....)

complete diagram:

The BGS Landrover is technically based on a FFR Rover from 1965 (Rover 8)

This is the Rover 8 FFR diagram - you can see where the above one originates from

So, any ideas, why the wires in the BGS diagram are cicrled and you can not fnd a single circled one in the

Rover 8 diagram?

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Hi Ivor,

the BGS wiring loom would be part number 551163.

Any chance of some pics from the looms?

Do they have the 6 way ligtning switch connections?

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TrueS2

Gents, I am preparing to remanufacture the loom for the BGS Landrover, which is technically based on a Rover 8 but has a different loom. As the one in my base vehicle was altered in many ways, I need to produce a brand new one.

I do have a wiring diagramm and a sketch from the parts manual, plus some pictures and a rough idea what goes where.

But - as usual there is a but....

What diemeter cables did they use and what type of cables?

The early 40amp/24V generator (CAV 724/1) will be installed, complete with the selenium plate rectifier.

Is there anybody with a genuine/unmodified wiring loom "to hands" who could measure some of the wire diemeters for me?

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fiddle some more pieces together over the course of a couple of days.

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steering wheel refurbed with the help of Charlesworthmouldings

front takes parts....

thats it for the moment.

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painted and first items fitted

rear axle completed and fitted

front axle and steering parts assembled

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copy for antenna bracket - template from a friend.

Thought a proper ally cast would be best

copy of tool box(es). With help of bits4landys

first try of twin horns - works see here:

arrival of chassis

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I have no idea why the last two installments have no pictures anymore, but here we go with an update:

Richards built a Rover 8 chassis to order

repro of horn bracket for "twin tone horns"

bulkhead work mostly done now

mounting for blue rotating light copied (and made two for friends vehicles)

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I agree they look Champ.

 

Marked as FV15243 although the ISPL doesn't recognise that & gives it as FV15242. Maybe a typo or the ones you have are a later version?

anybody on here able to provide some dimensions for an Austin Champ wheel, so I could compare.

I will be down measuring mine in the afternoon.

Are thy of some "value" in the Champ world?

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Gentlemen,

while unearthing a load of landrover Seires 1 and 2 parts in southern Denmark yesterday, I came accross these steering wheels.

My assumption was "something british military" - and as I found the FV number I saved them from being stored and forgotten by the guy there. He did not know aynthing about any of the parts he had from his late father, so everything could be released and came to a good home now. As I am pretty much a Landrover man, I have no idea whatsoever where these steering wheels might have been used, nor am I able to trace this FV number down.

So, help in identyfying what I have would be highly appreciated.

Its been four pf them, one has a chip at one of the rim-spoke connection from storage.

They seem to be never used but surely "shop soiled" as you say, from long storage.

Many thanks in advance

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One from the back.

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and some more

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more pics

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small update on what I have done so far:

dismanteled completely, chassis scrapped, searched and found a complete setup of 24V 40 amp parts (genny, starter, regulator, ignition stuff etc), searched and found a complete german 60s type Telefunken radio set, 6m telescopic antenna, various specials bits and pieces and a lot of other stuff.

All minor parts were shotblasted and powdercoated, together with some spares, so some pieces are doubled.

An engine block with the correct numbers and suffix has been sourced and prepared. Needs completing with internals.

next step is getting the body repaired and done (prepared for painting)

then axles, completing the engine, get new chassis made and delivered....

enough work for another two years I guess.

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Hi all, - especially Clive,

I just stumbled accross these pictures of a shorland in german police livery. Apparently this has been used around the former capitol Bonn in the 70s-80s. Not sure about the actual built date of it. Not much information unearthed until now, but I thought I should share the pics.

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Hi all,

need to lurk in here as well now. So thought I might just say hello. Some of you might already "know" me from other fora.

I am a certain Landrover Series 2 "afficionado" running a civil Series 2 SWB from early 1961 with rear PTO and front Capstan Winch. Much to my pleasure and joy, its been my mode of transport through younger years and now is with us in its 20st year. SWMBO also loves it... :red:

Last year saw an ex german border police SWB Landrover from 1965 coming along in avery bad state.

But nevertheless I thought I might get all the missing bits and pieces from its border patroling years and see if I can get it back to glory.

At present I am struggling to get together the bist for the 40 amps 24V generating system which should be installed.

When it came to us, it had a 12V diesel fitted, which has been "brought away" already. A petrol block with 252 F suffix number has been sourced, so still only missing some bracketry ffor the early genny.

Thats what it will look like in the future... if I manage to do it properly.

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