NRS91

21 hours ago, Ashcollection said:

have fun with the ballast body, keep us updated.

Cheers! Will do!

Heres a couple of pics I took on my visit to you guys.

For those wondering where the James Watkinson 20ton Constructor ended up a friend of mine chopped it out of a tree in 2015 and then sold it to a chap to restore, unfortunately he decided he wasn't going to be able to complete it so yesterday we went and collected the "Ikea" Constructor assembly kit.

Here are the pics:

Here are some moving images with sound!

On 11/22/2020 at 10:48 PM, N.O.S. said:

Anyone looking for a very straight steel ballast body c/w all lockers (ferns not included) for a 20T GS Constructor?

Bottom edges of rear doors need an inch cutting off and strips welded on.

Shame to cut it up  - hurry.........

 

 

 

 

If anyone has one of these and a "Bedford" Willenhall cab for sale please let me know!

On 10/20/2009 at 10:53 AM, fv1609 said:

This is from DEF STAN 25-6/Issue 3. It also includes the 3 load classes of pintle assemblies for 12190kg, 4080kg & 7620kg. Let me know if you want that.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/App1466.jpg

Sorry to revive an old thread.
I am looking for a FV397698 / 2540-99-873-9916 Towing Eye for my Rubery Owen trailer.
Clive would you happen to have any more info or drawings for this specific eye?

Hi Guys,
Bit of a thread revival so I apologise.
I was discussing armour and making them more reliable for sporadic civilian display use (read: reduced manpower, funding and spares availability) with a friend recently and they mentioned your EFI and Electronic Ignition efforts with the Meteor John, sounded very interesting!

When my Explorer was Meadows powered I intended on fitting an electronic ignition system from Megasquirt to help with starting etc.
I still have the kit in the shed actually along with the Meadows with the intention of making a running display engine to pop onto an Arrows trailer.

Recently I have stumbled across two things that may be of relevance and interest in this thread:

First is a company doing Fuel injection conversions on classic cars via a couple of different methods but one of which is a replacement "carb" which has built in sensors, butterly and injector and doesnt detract from the classic appearance of the engine in any great manner
www.classicfuelinjection.co.uk

The second is a bloke on youtube who has created a device called a "CarbCheater" which is basically a closed loop PWM control of an off the shelf idle control valve from a modern vehicle which adds air to the intake after the carb to lean out the mixture to 14.5/1 accurately. Parts count was about $100 for the circuit board, valve and AFR sensor.
He is looking to make it an open source project like Speeduino.

Hope this is of interest!

Has any more info surfaced on these since this post started?
Ive just picked one up.

1 hour ago, Paul military trailer said:

So I’m guess they don’t need to be original like the brakes ,I’ve seen some non directional military tyres that would look great and suit her but are they legal ,I know I can’t put off road tyres on , just want lots of tread but legal offcourse 

They allow you to modernise but needs to be within 10% of the rolling diameter from memory and equal or greater weight and speed rating

58 minutes ago, Paul military trailer said:

Also I’m not sure if I have s cam and wedge brakes or s cam and girling brakes ? Could you advise please ?

The rear has rods actuated by a T-16 brake chamber that pull wedges which push rollers out to expand the shoes, the front is the same but has small hydraulic slaves doing the pulling (these are actuated by a master cylinder which is pressurised by a T-16 brake chamber)

8 hours ago, Paul military trailer said:

Ok Lance thankyou ,I guessed as much ,just needed to know for sure ,lots work ahead ! Can you tell me the original spec of the tyres ,as I’m not sure what I have are original s ,I wanted to fit military off road tyres ,yet I know from my previous 4x4 off road tyres aren’t road legal ,yet I guess some old army trucks are different in terms of off road tyre regs ?

they use 8.25x16 tyres on split rims but im looking to convert mine to modern tubeless

17 hours ago, Paul military trailer said:

Hi fellers I’ve bought a Rubery  trailer ,I have a 7.5 ton fire truck to pull it ,however sane issue with the brakes ,I’m guessing from what I’ve read both axels must be braked to be legal ? Regards Paul in Ripponden 

My Rubery Owen had an overnight stay at her majesty's pleasure a few years ago because my front axle was unbraked, I had to go back and collect it the following day with the lowloader.

Basically the C&U regs say all wheels must be braked and all brakes must work to the required standard.

The data sheet ive seen for the day cab version was just as a 6X4 tractor unit, no winch.
(I believe the data sheet was in this thread somewhere?)

David Brown Tractor Club might be the best bet?

47 minutes ago, radiomike7 said:

It is a stretched civilian tractor, R.E./R.E.M.E did not run Amazons. 

I didn't pay attention to the one behind it.

Yea I know they didnt run Amazons, just not seen many Crusader/Amazons with single round headlights before I was sent the service pics of mine. Normally see the twin rounds and the civvi squares.

32 minutes ago, radiomike7 said:

Look what I came across today, an ex JK Recovery Amazon looking very sad and neglected.  I knew the owner and thought it was to be restored but no such luck.

Interesting headlights on that! Similar to mine when it was first in service:

Out of curiosity what is the truck behind that Amazon wrecker?

Well shes been under the low loader a few times now...
Currently building a Scammell house as the weather hasnt been kind to the Crusader cab or Explorer back body

Just a gentle nudge... Does anyone have that brake info pdf from 2007 handy? 

1 hour ago, stevebus said:

Nick thanks for the reply, like you say, probably not what I wanted to hear but I will definitely take on board what you have said.

To keep it short I lived abroad for 20 years until 5 years ago, a class 1 HGV driver but when I applied for my UK licence back the DVLA had lost all my vocational entitlements which you can imagine left me right in the pony  regarding my living arrangements, I have since had to retake my class 2 just to keep working at £1300 and in time will have to resit my class 1 at another £1300 and a week off work and unfortunately the farm where I live at the moment I have to be off in July and cant legally tow the trailer with the Seddon due to my licence entitlements.

I havn,t towed the trailer yet with the Landy because I havn,t had to, but can I understand that what your saying is the 110 will tow the trailer as long as I don't drive like a twat? and no hard braking for obvious reasons.

Like I said my standard braking system is completely up and together other than a smashed fluid reservoir at this moment which is only a question of replacing and re bleeding,  I did see in your first post you where looking for photos and bits of info on the original system, I don't know where you are in the country but you are more than welcome to come down to Kent nr Canterbury and take as many photos do drawings and anything else you need to do to get yours off that sodding GV9, I'm sure the wife will cook you a bite to eat if you have to come far and bring a tent if you don't want to drive back, the farmer here is pretty accommodating.

all the best, Steve 

 

Hi Steve,
The Rubery Owen trailers are plated to 5.5ton I believe (after my little road side chat) so without some paperwork and a DVSA headache it wouldn't be legal to tow behind the 110 either unfortunately. The 110 is capable of pulling the weight its just stopping it and controlling it. I have had mine up to 30mph behind my 90 and my 110 and these trailers like to wander behind the tow vehicle but the Land Rover isn't heavy enough to let it wander so the trailer makes the back of the Land Rover wander, not a nice feeling!
If you just need to move it once for a short distance then borrow a tractor, more controlled and within your licence entitlements.
I am based near Manchester so that would be a long haul for me! But thanks for the offer I will bare it in mind if im down that way.

7 hours ago, stevebus said:

NRS91, I'm trying to set up a braking system on my trailer exactly how yours is, I know its a bit of a cheek to ask but have you any close up photos of your draw bar so I can see what sits behind the overrun damper, is it hydraulic to brake the front wheels only or have you managed to get all the wheels braking some how, any help on this would be much appreciated.

 I have a 1975 Seddon tractor unit which I can tow it with on a fully air operated system which I want to keep, but I also want to be able to move it about and obviously brake with my 110 Defender without messing about the standard braking system of the trailer

                 many thanks Steve

Hi Steve,
Long story short my advice is don't change the brake system!!

My living van was modified from standard specification by the previous owner, it had a hitch (poorly) welded on and a master cylinder bolted to a bit of angle iron and bolted to the drawbar... this was pushing fluid into the reservoir port of the air over hydraulic master cylinder so probably didn't do anything useful.

For my use behind tractors it was fine as long as you stopped carefully, behind Scammells and ERFs you didnt know it was there.
That being said I was stopped for an inspection and the living van has now got a GV9 prohibition on it because the brake system has been modified from standard spec and only braked on the front axle.
So I am looking for the parts to put my living van back to standard spec and get the GV9 lifted so it can be used again.

As for towing behind a land rover 110, its fine for shunting even without brakes but much above 25-30mph the living van tries to push the 110 side to side in and disconcerting fashion, so I would advise against that too!

Sorry this isnt the reply you were looking for but after spending a lot of time and money fixing the damp/leaks and re-insulating my living van I now cant take it anywhere and I wouldnt want another enthusiast to have the same issues.

Thanks
Nick

I know this thread is almost a decade old, but any info on the brake system of the FV2500 series trailers would be greatly received.

My living van is in need of some TLC

Also has anyone updated their trailer to tubeless radial tyres?

KBC 116N

I bought it off Dave Crouch and he said he had it when it got de-mobbed, heres when Dave had her.

Will have to treat her to some better batteries and use the fuel pump cold start in future i think :rotfl:

Need to try her under the lowloader when I get the ballast box off.

Well we have sorted the gear linkage out so it shifts nicely now, she still kicks out of top gear like a mule though!

Also seems very reluctant to start in this colder weather despite giving her a good lick of cold start...

Heres a celebratory pic

my low loader brakes seem more than adequate behind my 4x2 ERF so hopefully no issues behind a 6x4 Scammell heavy hauler with faster diffs lol

If you do get any let me know antar

What sort of speed is safe with the hub reductions?

Any issues running at modern motorway speeds?

My cousin is a truck fitter n every time i mention regearing my new toy to approach more comfortable cruising speeds he gives me grief n says im stupid but ive seen a couple that run quicker with no issues so would like more opinions from those that have, bearing in mind i will be towing a tandem axle king lowloader with an explorer plonked on top lol

Thanks mike so 35 or 65 ton is just a matter of perspective then?

No, 35ton plant trailer similar to the ones pulled by 6x6 Constructors. If this is the original one owned by DC it came from Peter Court as a non runner many years ago with all the brake shoes removed and the con rods and pistons in the back of the cab! I bought the 3.5" 5th wheel to go on my Constructor as it was almost identical to the original and Peter Court let me have the mounting crossmember from his recovery Constructor.

 

You can use Crusader recovery crown wheels/pinions to get about 50 flat out or even lower ratio ones from a Leyland Marathon.

the 35t and 65t business does confuse me to be honest, she is around 61t on the plate.

Nice to know a little more of its history, Dave said he put a new engine in it when he had her.

Looking at the earlier posts in the thread from the lad with the "RoadHaus" crusader the 5.5 ring and pinions seem to be the way to go when I have some time and money!

I believe she was a 65ton tank transporter which Dave Crouch converted to take smaller 2" fifth wheel and lowered the arches and strap box to suit. She only does 40 mph and the ballast box is just sat on the fifth wheel, shes still capable of towing a trailer.