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Hi Am a volunteer at the National Army Museum Waiouru New Zealand. We have a Ward la France wrecker which has a 6/71 GM diesel which I would believe have come from a x WW2 Valentine Tank. Problem? Delco Remy starter Model 109308 Serial 2607 System Y Voltage 24v For some time the starter has never seemed to "boggie" ie spin at a expected 'vroom". Starter removed and dismantled 6 x 2 brush set found to be passed its use by date. Brushes replaced usual tests carried out, growler on the armature, earth leakage on the field coils, comutator all good, mica cleared between laminations, etc, etc. All good. new brushes fitted. When tested rotation slugish, fireworks sparkler type display visible from brushes / comutator. Test run for odd 30 sec when dismantled carbon arcing buildup on comutator. Starter dismantled, retested, complete new set of 24v brushes installed just to be sure. Same result. Starter taken to old school auto electrician with bottom line same results. He had no ideas as to the problem. This starter may well be like Grandfathers axe, 3 new heads and 7 new handles but it's still the same axe!!!! Have checked a later model Delco starter of the same family. Noted difference is that the later starter whilst still having the 6x 2 brush set has 27 segments on the comutator the one in question has 25 segments. Is this the problem? Thinking allowed perhaps the armature is from a 12 volt starter???? Any suggestions??????????????????????????? Roy Robinson

Hi Am a volunteer at the National Army Museum Waiouru New Zealand. We have a Ward la France wrecker which has a 6/71 GM diesel which I would believe have come from a x WW2 Valentine Tank. Problem? Delco Remy starter Model 109308 Serial 2607 System Y Voltage 24v For some time the starter has never seemed to "boggie" ie spin at a expected 'vroom". Starter removed and dismantled 6 x 2 brush set found to be passed its use by date. Brushes replaced usual tests carried out, growler on the armature, earth leakage on the field coils, comutator all good, mica cleared between laminations, etc, etc. All good. new brushes fitted. When tested rotation slugish, fireworks sparkler type display visible from brushes / comutator. Test run for odd 30 sec when dismantled carbon arcing buildup on comutator. Starter dismantled, retested, complete new set of 24v brushes installed just to be sure. Same result. Starter taken to old school auto electrician with bottom line same results. He had no ideas as to the problem. This starter may well be like Grandfathers axe, 3 new heads and 7 new handles but it's still the same axe!!!! Have checked a later model Delco starter of the same family. Noted difference is that the later starter whilst still having the 6x 2 brush set has 27 segments on the comutator the one in question has 25 segments. Is this the problem? Thinking allowed perhaps the armature is from a 12 volt starter???? Any suggestions??????????????????????????? Roy Robinson

Hi Ken Yes did get a manual from Portrayal Press (thanks for the info/contact). It covers what we needed and has helped in other areas of our rebuild. However it does not have the exploded views which you sent me of the winch. I'm cetainly not complaining about what I recieved nor suggest that what you have is what I would have expected from Protrayal, I'm just advising your manual seems to have more info. Regards Roy

Hi Ken Yes, will give me all the info I need. Really appreciate your assistance. I gather by the page numbers that the winch info is out of a much larger manual, does it cover the whole truck? Roy

Hi I'm new to this forum so may be well out of line with a question. I am retoring a 3-U-615 garwood winch on a 969A Diamond T. Can anyone one help me with a parts list and / or exploded view? Roy in NZ