TrevorLarkum

Thanks guys, I have taken some notes and will come back to these.

If you do, please take as many photos as you can, in particular to try to count and identify the various HSTs and other vehicles:

Sam Winer Motors

I wonder if Iain has the record cards? Bovington are usually pretty helpful in that respect. Mine (08EB10) spent all its life in BAOR before coming back to the UK to be sold off.

 

Andy

Good point. I don't yet have many Abbots online, but they are on my to-do list - I hope at that point I can also add yours. This is what I have so far:

Preserved Abbots

Indeed. This is the remains of an AC1 so-called; (approximately 65 built, your photo shows the only factory-built AC3). This AC1 was converted to a crane in the 50's. We know it was used to shift large blocks of concrete being the substructure of the breakwater in Portland (Australia that is) harbour. It ended its working life in a quarry north of Colac. The conversion involved cutting a trianglular shaped section including the third bogie from the hull. The rear of the hull with idlers was retained, 'rotated', and welded back onto the hull so that the rear idlers sit on the ground. This format supports the crane and its load. The original gearbox is retained. The AC1-crane was driven by a small International motor (deceased) through a vintage Thornycroft truck reduction gearbox. The winch was driven by a parallel drive train via chain drive through another Thornycroft box.

Robert

Thanks, Robert - I'll add it to my to-do list and get back to you when I can write it up, if that's ok. I currently have a bit of a backlog. It's certainly a very interesting vehicle.

heres our newest vehicle at work some may rcognise it . hopefully in the next 18 month she'll be up and running any help aquiring part would be much appreciated

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Iain

Here's an update:

Unique ID 1834: Type 69 Tank at Armourgeddon

Iain, as usual any information you can provide on its previous location(s) much appreciated.

Here's an update on this Centurion:

Unique ID: 1837: Centurion Tank at Armourgeddon

Iain, do you have a location for where it was with the Royal Engineers?

That location map probably needs Germany on it as she'll have spent most of her life over there!

 

Andy

I agree but I don't add locations without some evidence (it could equally be said of most post-war British military vehicles) - maybe she went no further than Larkhill. Perhaps someone will come up with a service history or photographic evidence from its registration: "07 EB 65".

WOw! Part of a Sentinel by the looks of things. Isn't there supposed to be three bogies?

True:

But what a rarity!

p.s trevor, the scrappers she came from was just outside markham moor near chesterfield and before that she was with everyman leisure driving experiance centre at mallory park i think.

Thank you! Location History and Map updated:

http://preservedtanks.com/Profile.aspx?UniqueID=1835

I have a little bit more on it here:

Unique ID 215: King Tiger 104 at Bovington

and a pic from Shrivenham:

This is the Tiger II page:

Preserved Tiger II Tanks

Iain: I've added information and photos from this thread, thanks. Can you say where the scrapyard was that it came from, so I can get its background history correct?

Everyone else: here it is as it looks now:

Unique ID 1835: Abbot at Armourgeddon

And a view into the turret through the top hatch (taken with the camera on a monopod):

Very nice! Looks a bit like a Sherman chassis but smaller, Stuart or HST -based maybe?

Of course, there's the cost of transportation - perhaps we should all club together and bring over 40 of them in a job lot!

I've added a couple of Iain's pictures of its arrival:

Unique ID 1833: Armourgeddon M4 HST

Iain, where was it directly before it came to you? I try to make each entry as complete and accurate as possible (it may also help with value since it gives each vehicle provenance, like an Old Master!).

does any one out there have any pictures of the internals of the othe kings around the world,,,,?

This is what I have on the one at Full, maybe it can help:

Unique ID 219: Tiger II at Full

They're not that expensive - Sam Winer is supposed to still have about 40 in stock! He's also got the rarer M6 HST at $7k and T94 Cargo Tractor at $10k.

Trevor ,

feel free to use any of my previously posted photographs if you need .

I've added a selection of 'milestone' photos from the restoration so far:

Unique ID 1841: Armourgeddon M4 (105)

This is what I have on this tank on PreservedTanks.com:

Chieftain at DTD

I haven't yet updated the entry for the move to Bovington.

Agreed!

Thanks guys!

Here's the PTC entry for this M4 HST:

Unique ID 1833: M4 HST, Armourgeddon, Husbands Bosworth

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Iain: please check it for accuracy and omissions when you can, thanks.

Everyone else: please consider this a status update!

IIRC, a large number of ex-MDAP M4 High Speed Tractors used by the Dutch Army ended up at Sam Winer Motors in the US.

Hanno, do you have a likely or at least representative location for its use in the Netherlands? It's for the map of its previous locations.

feel free to use any of my previously posted photographs if you need .

Thanks, Iain, I'll get on to it!

You should have seen it when it first came off the range, it was half full of that concoction!

Adrian, you wouldn't happen to have any pictures would you, by any chance? I have nothing before it appeared at Poteau.

Living in Canada as an ex pat Brit I welcome any questions about what is preserved out here and would gladly help in obtaining images for you. Just dont expect them overnight.

Robin, I visited Borden in 2008 and took hundreds of pictures that I haven't yet put online. Any pictures of the tanks at the Ottawa museum, however, would be much appreciated.

What years were you in 3 RTR?

I was on a short-service commission: I was at Sandhurst and then Bovington through 1988, Deilinghofen/Hemer/Iserlohn 1989 - June 1990 as Troop Leader (including Hohne, BATUS, etc.), South Tyrone July-November 1990, finishing as a Second Captain at Bessbrook December 1990. We returned to Germany in 1991, and I was back out by August that year.

You must have piles of photos from in service days, we all want to see them, honest, we do:yay:

I have some but like most ex-servicemen, I suspect, I regret now not taking more. I will endeavour to post what I have as soon as I can find them and the time.

nice to meet you the other day Trevor hope my very rushed tour was helpful anyway feel free to visit any time, doors are always open

I am very grateful for your time and the info you passed on - I fully appreciate the visit was a bit sprung on you, and you went out of your way to help. Nice jeep ride, too!

welcome to hmvf on the whole a good bunch of folk .

Looking good so far!

Iain, first off my heartfelt thanks to yourself and everyone at Armourgeddon for hosting us so well Sunday before last. My wife had bought the tank paintballing voucher for my birthday, and she and the girls really enjoyed coming along and learning to fight in the tank battle! My particular thanks to yourself for taking the time to show me the Sherman in your workshop.

Since then I have been busy writing up Armourgeddon and its tank collection. The profile page for the collection is here. The complete collection page is here, but I'd like to go through each vehicle one by one with you to make sure I've got my facts right. The best place to start must be the Sherman:

Unique ID 1841: M4 (105) Sherman Tanks, Armourgeddon, Husbands Bosworth

Please check it through and let me know if there's any more information you can add. Also, can I add a selection of your photos from this forum (I'll post to show what I've used each time)?

Sharky,

 

Great to see this M4(105) back!

 

Many Sherman tanks were used as Molotov cocktail training aids on Dutch ranges. Because of environmental concerns they were all removed 25 - 30 years ago. This one was deemed not recoverable, which is why it initially survived the so-called "Tank Slag" (tank battle), the clean up of the ranges.

Hanno, can you give a specific, or at least representative, location for this?