markbg

W&P is always fun what ever the weather.. Sun is back out now & winds gone lol

Yep beautiful July sunny day now lol

I live 8 miles away from Beltring and it's currently thunder/ lightning and torrential rain here - waters running into the pub!!!

Im starting to wonder if this is going to be worth it - restricted movement etc is no fun tbh

Doesn't this mean that there will be even less arena runs for vehicles? It was bad enough last year ....

Mark,

 

Only one dipstick as a Fox differs from a Ferret, in that it is one common oil flowing through gear and transfer boxes.

thats great thanks Richard - I will stop my search now!

cheers

Mark B

Hi

Just been sorting out the fox for the bunker bash and im still trying to find a second dipstick on the transfer box - the one on top just next to the turret swivel is easy to find but on the diagram on my manual there is a second one marked on the side of the transmission? Despite getting all the floor plates off I still cant locate and second dipstick on any part of the machinery under the turret floor plates..

Does anyone know where or if there should be a second filler under the floor plates somewhere?

cheers

Mark b

Mark,

 

I wasn't trying to put you off, just factor in around £4 per mile for fuel and other running costs. You will need to collect spares when you see them as they can be expensive and hard to find when you need them.

 

Remember that they are current in service vehicles, and although the MoD use diesel variants, everyone else is still on the petrol ones. This means when things like exhaust manifolds etc do come up for sale they are expensive. Withams are scrapping lots of J60 engines, so you would be best buying 3 or 4 for parts, even just for carbs and ignition modules etc.

 

You can drive one on L plates, I did for a while before taking the test in my own vehicle. That way I knew it well enough to book a test myself and do it on the streets around my house, saving around £600.

 

Spartan is probably the best entry level vehicle, they are cheap, plenty of room, easier to learn to drive as you can see the instruments and controls... you can't in a turreted variant.

 

Chris

 

Hi

I wouldnt take it that way Chris youve been a great help with the Fox already - its just Ive always wanted

It certainly looked good Jon but I think your price expectations may be a tad high for my budget! looks great tho - i do like those trucks as well - bees knees as they say

Hi

Good selection of replies with different views - thanks for this - it doesnt sound too daunting but as ever a good condition one is going to be alot eadier to run I guess

max miles a year for me is 250 if that

Perhaps a final point is that at least there are spares for the CVRT - Fox parts are becoming very difficult to get hold of

cheers

Mark b

ok but the same could be said of a fox? theres no new gearboxes at all , Ive had to replace a complete hub assembley due to the knocking sound etc so the fox aint great either - I agree with road wheels and track expenditure but if they are in a good condition when bought then there shouldnt be too many problems? I dont have a spare engine fif the fox so do rhey wear out so quickly on a CVRT?

Would not the samd be true if a 432?

Hi

As you may know I currently have a Fox CVRW but have always aimed at getting a CVRT - there are a number available and Im assuming there will be more in the winter - engine wise I think Im ok to check but what else should I look for in terms of problems with the CVRT?

- final drive is something Ive heard of

sorry bit of a large topic but I havent found much on any checks to do for the cvrt

any thoughts let me know

cheers

Mark B

Mark,

 

Buy a replacement filter, there is a new O-ring in the box which you should fit to the housing. Also place a copper washer under the bolt head before refitting.

 

http://www.ekmpowershop5.com/ekmps/shops/greenmachines/cvrtcvrw-oil-filter-1383-p.asp

 

You may think £25 for a filter is expensive, but the minimum order from the manufacturers is to buy 10 at £30 each, so it's actually pretty a good deal!

 

Chris

Hi,

Its not the expense thats the problem - its more the timing - I was supposed to bring the Fox down this weekend and I dont think the filter will arrive in time so was hoping instant gasket would work for now

- I have dowty washers which I think will work as well as a copper one or is this not the case?

cheers

Mark

Hi,

Lee and I both noticed a leak on the Fox - I've had the back armour off and eventually after much messing around the leak is from the oil filter - both from the bolt at the top and the sides of the flange - it wasnt obvious until we tightened up the bolt on the oil filter and watched it dripping away (could only see this with the back armour off as it wasnt obviuos looking on top)

I want to go and fix it tomorrow soooo...

- Can I use instant gasket to fix the leak? i.e. gasket around the flange and the bolt..

- any ideas on what to look for to fix the problem?

any help appreciated

cheers

Mark

Was too far for me too I am sorry to say. Hope it went well and looking forward to the pictures.....

I didnt take many was far too drunk most of the time and when sober was busy driving - there were official photographers and a film crew so should be something posted up soon

Hi - just thought I'd post now before collapsing - show was great - kids thought so too - lots of runs on the Fox ch ran well and to top it all two firepower displays with the barrel realistically firing which I'd never seen or done before - loads of friendly people and very good atmosphere

thanks all for the weekend and the organisers which made such an enjoyable time for us

cheers

Mark "VERY sunburnt" B

Get yourself a copy of this book...

 

http://www.ianallanpublishing.com/british-infantry-brigade-berlin-tankograd-british-special-no-9001.html

 

There are pictures of Foxes in there, can't remember if they are in the Berlin colour scheme but will check later.

Cool will do - that paint scheme might take a while though - but looks great

The sand colour is BS381C shade 361 light stone. I am sure Marcus will be able to supply it. Do you have any photos of Foxes in that scheme?

 

Chris

Hi,

Not at the moment - apparently the scheme was used but I've no real evidence of this - however I think the scheme looks good...the idea came from complaints last year that theres too many "green" machines so I was looking into other camo schemes that were used on ferrets and could be applied to the Fox

thanks for the info

cheers

Mark B

Hi,

I'd like to try this paint scheme on the Fox - Ive used Marcus Glenn paints before particuarly spray which is really good but he doesnt have the type of colour for the light tan coulur on the pic below (the light stone he has is more of a BATUS yellow colour) - does anyone know what colour this is and who might supply it or shall I just go for a commercial paint?

http://www.mod-sales.com/auction/vehicle/related/35643/AFV_432_TRACKED_ARMOURED_PERSONNEL_CARRIER_DIRECT_GOVERNMENT_SALES.htm#

any thoughts?

cheers

Mark B

Bit short sighted that saying no kids 'we are a living history group' no kids no future movement. I take it all the 're-enactors' will be around the age of twenty when they reenact? If not is it going to be a troop of Dads Army with beer guts and grey hair?

Thanks Lee got your PM - and yes I think its a bit much - they wear uniforms and dont run around acting stupid either - they were actually quite a hit during the schools day as the kids felt they could ask them questions more than the adults

Jon wasnt kidding - a veritable treasure trove - I'm going back next week - and the Fox is now completely fixed

thanks for all the help - lets hope I have a better year this time round

cheers

Mark B

Not an unusual failure on a Fox. Tracta joint picks up, spot weld between a fork and knuckle, something has to give and tube breaks away from sphere on the challis.

Yep thats it - the noise associated with the problem is a loud banging sound when the steering is near full lock - what causes it is a mystery I assume it was lack of oep220?

I have several second-hand complete wheel stations (and lots of new driving parts) for Fox.

I had a lot more last weekend before the pikeys got on top of my container and nicked about half a ton of bits!

If anybody finds some Fox wheelstation parts in a Kent scrapyard, let me know!

 

Regards

Jon

Hi

If you still have the right hand side station as you're facing the fox then I'd like to buy it if possible?

cheers

Mark B

Hi

Unfortunately I dont have the parts book - banisters does but he hasnt replied probably due to the holidays

thanks for info on parts - its the from front hub i do have the manual with blowup diagram of everything but no part numbers

thanks for help ill call around

cheers

Mark B

Hi,

I've posted the pics on the gallery page below

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/album.php?albumid=416

I dont have part numbers as yet - working on them

cheers

Mark B

Hi

Ive been trying everywhere for a new left wheel CV joint assembley but no joy does anyine know anyone that may have fox parts? have pics of the parts im trying to get

cheers

Mark B

Hi

I was with a group last year at w&p so camped with them with the Fox in the living history area - now im booked in this year as well but they are now changing to a ww2 group only and no kids allowed so now im a bit stuck - i did remember that there was a HMVF area in the show but not sure if that area is pre booked fir certain people or whether we can tag along? we are generally there all week but i would prefer to camp next to the vehicle in an area clise to the main field

any ideas/suggestions welcome

cheers

Mark B