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10 hours ago, BlueBelle said:

Alas, I don't have a picture of your LR but you must take solace from knowing it served in Tripolitania, certainly post-1957/8 with that formation flash and, perhaps earlier too if the formation flash was 10 Armd Division's or the earlier 25 Armd Brigade's 'left-facing standing white rhino on a black oval.

The Guards Brigade, 1 Inf Division served for quite some years in Tripoli/Zavia prior to the formation of 25 Armd Brigade in 1952, but I think that period up to 1952 may be too early for your vehicle.

I hope you solve the mystery!

Sorry I was unclear do you have a pic of .....A Tripolitania District formation flash, a Barbary dhow. Would it be the same as your profile pic? but with a red border?

14 hours ago, BlueBelle said:

 

yes I am still looking in to the history thank you very much for the id of the markings do you have a pic of what it should look like ?

hello I have identified the other markings I am having trouble with this one. It is on the lower door on both sides of the land rover. So far I have been given guesses as to what it is 1 storage mark, chalk mark for transport by air or sea and war games marking. please help clearly identify this.

A comment was made to size and place of the markings I hope this works and hopefully correct me where I am wrong

Nearly missed these I believe this is the crossed kukris in white on green rectangle

Guards Armoured Division 'ever open eye' it was I believe use as my previous post and the Irish Guards in 1999 would use it on the tank of the best gunner

Hello I think this marking is the Guards Armoured Division 'ever open eye' and the truck got this by: Look at this also please,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_Armoured_Division_(United_Kingdom), It shows 10th armoured was in Libya at this time 1950s I am starting to think along the lines of

The Armoured Brigade Signals Squadron was expanded to 10th Armd Div Signals in May-June 1956, based in Tripoli. It began to wind up in April 1957, and disbanded completely in September 1957.[9]

Hello soundhound,

Thank you,for the info and great pic.

Post war marking were all covered in depth by Clive Elliot. Do a search for his thread on Post War Military Markings in Clive's Corner. You will find the 1952 marking most helpful.

 

Red squares on both doors can be mis-leading. Sometimes on exercises opposing sides were marked with red or blue squares on the doors. As the cold war ended the red became orange as the Russians got upset!

 

Start with the damaged front wing. Use some wet and dry and slowly work back down through the layers to see what you can find? As you look at the vehicle from the front the left tended to have arm of service (Only good to indicate type of unit such as REME, RA, RAOC etc) and the right wing tended to have the unit markings which is what you really need to find. Take your time with rubbing down and take regular photos as it is all too easy to rub through stuff you wanted to keep/ though irrelevant.

 

First thoughts for the hole int he rear are a wheel well like in my mum's 80 inch series 1.

Hello,ferret1958uk,

I best get on with the sanding and photos.

The wheel well sounds like a good idea I am going to look through my collection of MOD landy photos and see if any had the spare wheel fitted like this. may be it was ripped out to fit what ever went in to the bolt holes in the chassis.

"Post War Military Markings in Clive's Corner. You will find the 1952 marking most helpful". yes it is. this is my first Military resto and i am learning, i don't want to make mistakes with what goes where and why, by asuming anything and looking silly later. Still getting my head round it all.

thank you for your reply

A blue square could indicate the 2nd Canadian Division (as a formation sign), or more likely for the position a Royal Engineers Unit (as an arm of service sign).

 

If so, the previous bit I popped on about the red square being an arm of service marking is probably wrong - what's the location of that one?

 

If you're interested the books I'm using are

- Formation Badges of World War Two by Howard Cole, and

- World War Two Military Vehicle Markings by Terence Wise.

Both quite handy by the looks of things.

 

I can't remember where I came across the bit on the convoy light number.

the red square is in the middle of the door on both doors.

thank you for the titles of the referance books i shall look in to the these

and thank you for your input it is most welcome

there is a blue rectangle on the driver wing and on the tail gate would this be a convoy mark or engineers sorry no pick atm

If I've got this right,

 

The number on the convoy disc (black 7) is the unit serial number (i.e. the 7th truck in the unit)

 

The red square is probably a branch of service marking indicating senior brigade (infantry), or senior regiment (armoured), or independant brigade (infantry) with the number indicating the serial number assigned to the unit.

thank you for your reply

any ideas as to what was here. from the holes in the chassis it was big and i have a 1954 86ich landy with a harvey forst crane and the fittings are different.

is this the cloth mud flap fitted by reme i read about ?

i think this is the remains of a marking on the wing shame

Hello any inf on the above markings the red squaire with a whith 38 in side

and the 7? on the con voy disc

I have found out that my landy

YOU HAVE TRUCK 1/4 TON 4X4 GENERAL SERVICE ROVER MK3 FROM WAR OFFICE

CONTRACT 6/VEH/16223.

IT ENTERED SERVICE ON 8 NOVEMBER 1954 UNDER ARMY FORM

GENERAL 1033 ISSUE/RECEIPT VOUCHER NUMBER ASC/R/2359 [12TH B VEHICLE

DEPOT ASHCHURCH IN GLOUCESTERSHIRE]. IT WAS STRUCK OFF CHARGE AT WD

STORAGE AND DISPOSAL DEPOT RUDDINGTON IN NOTTINGHAMSHIRE ON 28 APRIL

1964.

OTHER ROVER MK3 FROM SAME CONTRACT WITH SAME DATE AND RV [8 NOV 54 &

ASC/R/2359] WERE:

38 BP 47-S/O BRITISH FORCES ARABIAN PENINSULA 30 NOV 60

38 BP 60-S/O MALTA 31 OCT 65

38 BP 80-S/O KENYA CENSUS RETURN 31 OCT 64

38 BP 92-S/O FAR EAST LAND FORCES CENSUS RETURN 31 OCT 64

39 BP 02-S/O RUDDINGTON 15 MAY 63

39 BP 95-S/O FAR EAST LAND FORCES CENSUS RETURN 30 JUNE 64

41 BP 70-S/O EAST AFRICA CENSUS RETURN 31 MARCH 64

41 BP 91-S/O MALTA CENSUS RETURN 28 FEB 63

42 BP 09-S/O RUDDINGTON 26 AUG 63

THIS INDICATES THAT ALL THESE VEHICLES WERE ALLOCATED TO SAME UNIT ON 8

NOV 54. THE UNIT WAS LATER POSTED OVERSEAS; POSSIBLY MIDDLE EAST LAND

FORCES AS YOU HAVE FOUND DESERT COLOUR ON YOUR VEHICLE.

AS TIME WENT ON, THE LAND ROVERS WERE TRANSFERRED TO OTHER UNITS AND

THEATRES OF OPERATION.

YOURS AND TWO OTHERS RETURNED TO THE UK.

Hello all,

trying to find out as much as possible about my landy before restoration so while waiting for camberley to get back to me and looking at any army reg with BP in the nearest one i have found is a pic of 40 BP 38 this reg appears in Windscreen summer 2010 issue 127 on page 20 my landys army reg is only a couple off this 41 BP 35 from what i have seen reg numbers i think were put on vehicles then sent out from the depots and this may mean nothing? did the reg's follow a group pattern?

From what I have read in the Windscreen article by John Mastrangelo and the Quarter ton Pat Ware. this Land Rover was

part of order 6/VEH/16223 1955 WD 57100282-4375 FV18001 Soft top 36 BP 85-48 BP 58

I am still scraping layers of paint off to see what I can find unfortunately some wally put head lights in the wings and cut up the markings there is only a little left and not enough to ID I think. however i found a stencil under the desert sand/light stone paint and was wondering what the 6039-10-193? means/refers to?

Any help and advice or tips on getting the history of the Land Rover.

Thank you.

Hello all,

I have had, like most, a long time interest in old vehicals. My mine interest is old land rovers. i havd 2 ex mod ones a series one 1955 6/veh/16223 WD 57100282-4375 light stone 86inch which is a project. and a series 2 which i have no plates for just an old pic and a non mod 1955 107 series one.

I do like other old vehicals and would like the chance to work on tracked vehicals, hope to one day own a APC.