Greenjacket

Many thanks for all the responses to the question

Trying to find detailed info on my LR Military engine fitted with Weber carb.

Engine number 95107993A

Year manufacture

Compression ratio

3 or 5 bearing

Many thanks

My thanks to Mike, Chris and Singe for their expertise and to Richard a fount of knowledge on things armoured.

Hi

 

It's definitely a bigger 2-pin plug about twice the size of the usual 321/353/harness box power connector - I was lucky to get one with my 322. I believe someone I know in the West Midlands had a small stock of the plugs to fit the 322 last year at £35 each but has now sold out so I expect it will be necessary to figure out the right part number to order from Farnell - getting the body and pin size right is the easy bit, the keying is a whole other matter !

 

The connectors I have unfortunately have manufacturer's markings rather than NSNs but the info for what it's worth is:

 

The free plug (PSU end) is marked TEE 05 270 13 50 PB 9501 and (taking the wide key as 12 o'clock) has narrow keys at 3, 4, 7 and 9 o'clock looking into the cable.

 

The free socket (Amplifier end) is marked ?755 18 50 SC 1701 8525 and (taking the wide key as 12o'clock) has narrow keys at 4,5, 7 and 9 O'Clock. "?" represents characters too scuffed to read.

 

Both have "Thorn" embossed in the rubber insert that surrounds the pins or sockets.

 

Both connectors are 30mm diameter outside the locking ring, 24mm outside the fixed part of the body, and the pins or sockets are on 10mm spacing.

 

I have the opposite problem at the moment - a 50A PSU with no connector to fit the output socket !

 

The obvious (if not quite proper) solution would appear to be to replace the connectors on the PSU and 322 amp with a gland and short cable terminated in a normal civillian DC power connector like the Anderson SB 50 amp which costs about £6 a pair and has a lot more metal in it than the pins on the 322 power plug. That cable seemed to cause a problem either for the amp or PSU with RF getting in the power lead though - I originally fitted a twin red & black power lead to my 322 power plug and found that the amp or PSU tripped out when keyed CW at full power - fitting a shielded twin power lead as in the original 50A PSU to 322 installation cured that instantly. So I think any replacement also has to be a shielded connector.

 

Hope this helps

 

Iain

73 de G0OZS

 

PS if anyone is interested I have one working and one dead (trips RCD) Clansman 50A PSU left over from my last trip to Withams for sale with power leads but of course no output leads - please PM if interested.

Iain

Very many thanks for comprehensive info.

73's

Les

Aerial Base No.9 is the standard AFV base, and will be fitted to a tubular mounting of suitable length to clear any "clutter" on the vehicle. Later on in WW2 a "protector" was fitted - steel halo affair - to the mounting to prevent the flexible base being ripped off if the aerial snagged on a tree or similar.

 

Aerial Base No.9A is fitted to a big spring clamp so it can be attached to a stake or jeep canvas hoop.

 

Both of these require a precise length of co-axial feeder, which was available in two lengths: Leads, Aerial No.2 (ZA.3142), later renamed to Connector, Coaxial No.11, which is the shorter one, and Leads, Aerial No.3 (ZA.3143) or Conn., Coax., No.11A which is the longer of the two.

 

(Leads, Aerial, No.1 (ZA.3141) is the WS19 A set to variometer cable.)

 

There's another apparent variant of Aerial Base No.9 - fitted to a flat disc with a rubber gasket and captive nuts. This is a post-ww2 civilian effort for vehicle radio, apparently.

 

 

 

Aerial Base No.9 (and 9A) is specific to the WS19 'B' set for inter-vehicle communication at short ranges. It takes a single "Aerial Rod 'G' (ZA.1771)" which measures 24" x 1/4" diameter. It's thin-wall copper plated steel, either a straight tube with a metal plug at the top to keep water out, or a tapered version. The bottom end terminated in an inserted plug threaded 2BA, I think. (Can't find my thread gauge.) This screws directly into the base. (The aerial base and rod was also used with the CN348 (Burndept?) VHF set for Air Support cooperation.)

 

The WS19 'A' set uses aerial bases No.8, 10 Mk.1 or 10 Mk.2, all of which take Aerial Rods "F", and allow the use of up to 16 feet of aerial (though never more than 8 feet on the move to prevent damage to the rods and/or base). The 'F' rods are 4 feet long (not counting a few odd ones for special purposes) and are push-fit (original British design) or push-fit then screw together (rolled threads on all sections) (Later US/Canadian production subsequently adopted by everyone). Base No.8 is fragile and the rods are retained by a wraparound spring clamp (which breaks or goes soft) and was replaced by Base No.10 this has a better clamp (with butterfly nut) but the rubber part was prone to shearing off the baseplate. The Mk.2 version had an improved shape for better bonding to the plate, and an improved clamp (with separate clamping and terminal nuts).

 

I must do some photographs at some point!

 

Other aerials: various long wire aerials were issued with the Truck & Ground Station, pre-cut to length for the frequency range in use. The standard lot were: 70-ft, 90-ft, 110-ft, 150-ft, 185-ft and 250-ft.

 

Aerial Masts: the Canadians produced 20-ft and 34-ft telescopic masts that could be used as vertical aerials or as supports for wire aerials. The British had the pre-WW2 34-ft sectional mast, made up of 3-ft Aerial Rods 'D', an adapter, and 12-ft of 'F rods on top.

The masts could be used on the ground or mounted on a roof insulator (Aerial Base No.3 or No.16 (which is a modified No.3 for high power) for the 34-ft British mast) on a radio truck.

 

Hope this is some help, or at least interesting.

 

Chris.

Hi Chris

B set antenna screw size is as you state 2BA

best

If this is the amp that comes up when I do a Google image search, it looks to me like a standard MIL spec (possibly MIL-D-38999) connector - bayonet fitting, five keyways unequally spaced, one of which is larger - is that the one?

 

If so, plugs are still available from manufacturers such as Amphenol - possibly RS components or Farnell might be able to help.

 

Alternatively, with a quick search I've just found a site called www.armyradio.com which is advertising Clansman power leads - which look to be original army surplus ones - for £10 each.

 

Google is your friend... hopefully.

Hi

Many thanks but I think the cable which armyradio are advertising is the normal power cable which fits the 321,353. The 322 cable although 2 pin is much more substantial with different keyways on plug. i.e. squaddy proof.

Best

The boiling vessel plug is quite large and is a four pin male plug. Do you have a picture of where the plug would plug into on the amplifier?

 

Is it 240 volts or ? DC?

Hi

28V and I think 2 pin.

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Does anybody know if the AFV boiling vessel cable will fit the power socket on the Clansman 322 amplifier.

The 322 frequently are sold without the power cable and the correct plug is virtually unobtainable.

Many thanks

Les,

 

As good as this one?

 

Just so people can spot the difference between the 80 watt and the 300 watt or Chorehorse charging sets.........here is a Stuart Turner built 80 watt.

 

Richard

Richard

Nearly as good. Came with a ws 62 set no spares however.

regards

Les

The 80 watt set is Not the chorehorse but a smaller charger made for the WS 62 installation. A WS 62 was manpack, but the 80 watt charger was carried in a Jeep when the set was vehicle mounted, together with a pedal generator. The vehicle set up could also be carried by mules. The WS 62 was used from 1945 onwards and I have heard it was first used Operationally on the Rhine crossings in March 1945. I have a photocopy of the handbook somewhere and the Jeep installation diagram. I will try and find it and get back to you.

Robert

Very many thanks. You are absolutely correct re the WS62 and the charger. Mine looks mint and complete but would appreciate a scan of the handbook if poss.

Best regards

Les

Has any body got a copy of the user/technical manual for the Charging set lightweight 80 watts - ZB10632 which i could scan.

Best regards

Les

Very many thanks to all members who replied to my post so quickly.

It is very much appreciated.

regards

Les

Tony/Lee

Tel. number so I can contact

best regards

Les

Can any member put me in touch urgently with the above organisation.

Many thanks

Les

After all the promos for the programme - a big let down.

No new evidence and Hammond however good is tainted with the "laddish antics" of Top Gear. The good news as previously mentioned on the forum was the BBC finding time for the subject in its schedules.

Best wishes to all for 2008

Thanks Richard I'll try that line.

Unfortunately its very much pot luck with Army records most of which were transferred from Beverley. OK if its fairly late postwar but early vehicles no.

No luck at Bovington either.

regards

DAIMLER DINGO 1942 Mk2

WANTED any WW2 or postwar history on

my Dingo Wartime census number F47471 or postwar number 12 ZS 78.

Trying to put together its history so any photos or history much

appreciated.

Yep, I think that was the problem - no advertising.

I was told by a RE veteran and I believe it was also in the IMPS event diary but that was about it.

However even if they achieve numbers next year, I reiterate the thoughts in my previous message - a lot more effort will have to go in to looking after entrants when they are on site.

regards

Not a very good turnout for the Royal Engineers Ferretfest at the Corps Museum at Chatham this w/e. Intended to backup the veteran's reunion over the w/e, on the Saturday which I attended with my Mk1 Ferret only 6 other Ferrets and a Dingo appeared with 3 more on the Sunday. I believe it was muted earlier that up to 40 vehicles would be there.

If they intend running the event next year I suggest they organise accommodation as they do at Pirbright and try to arrange a road run or other attractions. Unless entrants are very local, its an expensive operation to take an armoured vehicle backwards and forwards over 2 days. An excellent museum but once you have visited its a long time to stand around for the rest of the day without other attractions.

Good job the mobile 40's NAAFI was in attendance otherwise we would have all starved !

Hi Fred

Singe is listed on the Dingo Register.

As I'm uncertain of the laws surrounding the data protection act, if you contact me via my email I'll let you have a contact reference.

regards

As has been advised on other forums before these questions and answers are best left out of the public domain.

Many thanks Richard

regards

When I advertised on Nigel's MILWEB some 9 months ago for MW spares a chap rang me from N. Yorks saying he had an almost complete MW in his barn. Chassis engine OK but body pretty well gone. As I was then well suited for the bits I needed - didn't follow it up.

Try MILWEB if you haven't already been down this route.

regards

Thanks Lee.

I should have known.

regards

In those days well past all of the spark plug manufacturers used to publish handy books, listing all the then current and past vehicles with their plug recommendations as well as cross referencing other manufacturers plugs.

Probably because of the risk of product liability litigation and the use of the wrong plug particularly in regard to cross references these handy promotional items ceased.

Anybody know of a good website covering this. Google only produces firms trying to sell you plugs !

regards