sallidan

Hi.

That will be a good thing to see and hear.

I hope you can gather a few more in, perhaps you could try and get a message to the 'Alvis Figthting Society' group as well to see if any thier 'Stolly' owners would like to join in ?. It's a pity more Stolly's aren't around or at least running as there does seem to be a fare few just wasting away in fields and the such places !.

I haven't got a Stolly but I've a machine from the same stable, a Saladin which I hope to get to this years W & P show, so looking forward to seeing you all at ' Hell's Corner '.

Hi all,

 

I have been in touch with Rex to ask his permission if we could officially hold an anniversary meet for the stalwarts 50th

 

He was all for it, and such a nice chap to deal with.

 

The magazine photographer will be there also, we could be able to have a magazine feature! :cool2:

 

As the new site also has a lake, it may be possible to dip our wheels also! Where did I put my boyancy aid!

 

I have asked on the stolly forum to see who is going, I thought I would also ask here (as some stolly owners may not be on the forum)

So let us know if you are going with your stolly and joining in, we can see how many we will have, the actual day we do it will be arranged nearer to the show.

 

So far we have 6 stolly's, it would be great to see more.

it will be similar to what the champ club recently did, I think they had about 80 champs, I don't think there is that many working stolly's left. But we could do quite a few, and it will hopefully be the most stollys together since de-mob. :wow:

Its a nice anniversary year, so try to come

 

Thanks all, will be looking forward to seeing you all, and your stollys!

 

Regards

shaun

It also depended on what you had left after yesterday's operations and what the A Echelon had on board when they came round to replenish you.

 

Looking at the ammunition specified.

 

Shell (HE) is good for making a big bang and flattening an area full of infantry. It can also blow lumps out of soft-skinned vehicles but the best you'll get out it against armour is to destroy optics or break a track. You may get a "mobility kill" ("it's out of battle but it isn't destroyed") but it can be repaired and brought back into service.

 

HESH (High Explosive Squash Head) is the perfect compromise: it carries nearly as much HE payload as Shell but its design gives you an excellent chance of destroying a (contemporary) tank by causing massive spalling inside the vehicle (if it doesn't penetrate outright) and trashing everything inside including crew). In Scorpions (essentially the same gun, same ammo, same role as Saladin), we could spend whole days on the ranges firing nothing but HESH (actually normally HESH Prac, identical but without the HE payload so we didn't trash the targets, hard and soft).

 

Of the 42 rounds carried on Scorpion, the vast majority would always be HESH and we rarely saw Shell (or HE-Prac). I did once spend maybe a quarter hour feeding a smoke screen on a ridge, but truth be told if the battlegroup wanted smoke, it could call on it's artillery component for whom smoke was part of the day job.

 

Canister was a one-off to keep Chinese hoards at bay in Korea when the coaxial MG would burn out. (I recently reread http://www.amazon.co.uk/Assault-Crossing-River-Seine-1944/dp/1848845766 - which coincidently featured my regiment, part of the first battlegroup across the Seine in 1944 in what became the de-facto standard for an improved divisional opposed river crossing. This gives a good description of the first Sherman troop of 4/7 DG across the river fighting off a counter-attack and burning out all the MG barrels in a desperate attempt to keep them from being over-run.) By the time we came across it, the manufacture of canister rounds had been outlawed by Geneva. However, they existed and under Geneva rules, we could use them, we just couldn't make any more. Same with flame throwers. I saw flame thrower pits at Hohne ranges in the early 80s even though they were by now sanctioned.

 

But the canister round (a glorified 76mm shotgun round for those that didn't know) destroys gun barrels. We'd have a demonstration of the effects of a single canister round fired from the oldest barrel in the squadron (soon to be replaced) every time we went to the ranges. We knew they existed and we had the stocks to use up, but we never expected to use them in action. Oh they they were seriously heavy.

 

So to sum up. You could expect your vehicle to be entirely loaded with HESH unless they were short, in which case you'd get Shell. Smoke on an as-required basis,

 

Hope this helps.

Hello.

That's very good, thanks for taking the time to get back to me. I was just wondering what sort of 'Inert' rounds I should fill the Shell racks up with, that's if I ever get enough 76mm shell cases ??!. I see that there is a Canister round for the 120mm smooth bore, which I guess wouldn't be damaged so much if at all by the shot ?.

Thanks again.

Dan.

like most things, it depended on the mission and what your potential targets were.

Hello.

I 'Sort of' gatherd as much, but I just thought the military being what it is, there might have been a set mixe of rounds to start with any way !!.

Cheers.

Can anyone give me their experiences please or any recommendations for a source of Aluminium Paint to repaint an AFV (Dingo) engine bay.

 

A synthetic, brushing type would be preferable,with a degree of heat resistance.

 

Thanks.

David.

Hi David.

I'm new to the Military vehicle scene, but I've used 'Smooth Hammerite Siver' in part of my engine bay in my 'Saladin' and that gets a 'Tad !' Hot, and seems to be holding up ok.

Dan.

Hi.

YES i'd be interested in the pamphlet, Ea.

I have a spare armament pamphlet for Saladin if anybody is interested.

Hello Adrian.

Yes, I'd be interested in the 'Armament Pamphlet'. I you'd like to contact me privatly we come sort something out.

Cheers Danny.

Taken from the training pamphlet No 13. Saladin Armoured car.

 

76mm Ammunition.

 

a) Shell HESH with fuse L19A1

b) Shell HE/T with fuse No. 410 Mk 2/2 or L17A1.

c) Shell smoke base ejection with fuse time No. 390

d) Shot cansiter

 

Hope the above helps.

 

Andy

Thanks for getting back to me, perhaps I wasn't very clear in what Info I was after. I know what types of rounds that where avialable for a Saladin, I was just wondering what the numbers were that were carried on board, i.e. 10 x H.E, 5 x Smoke etc etc ?.

Dan.

Hello.

I was just wondering if there are any Ex - Saladin crew men out there who could give a clue on the numbers of the different types of Ammo that was carried on board, or was it down to personal choice and opererational cercumstances ???.:-)

Cheers.

Hello Fugly.

I'm just about to do some mantinance work on Saladin as I've a bad oil leak from the Transfer Box. Looking at my vehicle I thought I was going to have to take out the two center wheel stations so as to move the center bevel boxes and get the T/box out. But looking at your photo's it looks as though they are still in place whilst you have managed to remove the Gearbox with the Transfer Box still attached ?. Please could you enlighten me and how much of a 'Work' up is it to remove the Turret ??.

Many thanks Danny.

http://www.afvsociety.co.uk/services.html

Details on that page

Thanks for that, I'll give that a go, ta again.

Hello.

If anyone has a contact number or e-mail address for the A.F.V.S. would they kindly like to pass it on to me as my Saladin would like some new friends to play with!. Anybody with any info. please send to :- danny.chant@btinternet.com.

Many thanks Dan.

Is there anyone that can help me out as I'm looking for or even just get some diamensions for a 'Pinto' mounting for a 30cal machinegun to fit a Saladin. Ta.

Cheers for that, PM = Private Message, yes ?. I'll have crack it . Ta.

Hi, I would recommend you send a PM to Oily, as he owns a Saracen, and is located in the Southampton area. Though if you find that your accumulators are knackered, I am in the process of having seals made up for them.

 

Simon

Hello, not sure if I'm doing this right! but here goes any way. The main thing I need to get done is to get the 'Acumalaters'? checked/charged, any tips or thoughts?.

Wow...welcome along Dan...now thats what I call jumping in with both feet.

That whole family is my favourite wheeled armour, I am still holding out for a Saracen..just need to leave a spare pair of wheels up against the middle of the 101, and at a convenient time buy a saracen and park it in its place...its green, she will never notice

Hello.

Cheers chaps, thankfully I have 'A Bit' of machanical knowlege, but as I said any tips would be most welcome. Dan.

Hello.

I'm just about to join the world of 'Green Machines', an Alvis Saladin and would appricate any advice about , storeing, useing, the 'Don'ts and more importantly the 'Does' about owning this vehicle. Yours thankfully Dan.

I am just about to take charge of an Saladin and would like to have any advice/HELP! on where and how to 'Charge' the 'Actuators!?'. I live down south in Southampton. Thankyou.