Jump to content

ChrisR

Members
  • Posts

    17
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    1

Posts posted by ChrisR

  1. No sniggering at the back! - Anyone found one of these in the back of a Vauxhall staff car?

    These photocopied pictures were among a bunch of wartime bomb disposal equipment photos, but I don't think its related. - Any ideas? (Keep it clean!)

     I wondered if it was an inflatable jack to put under an aircraft with collapsed undercarriage?P1200283.thumb.JPG.84a8e187582dae54e5121c7177502fd2.JPG

    • Haha 1
  2. A selection of miscellaneous bomb disposal vehicles -

     124.thumb.JPG.702e007aa0573000603078f8cb50f097.JPG

    Distinctive Maltese camouflage.

    124a.jpg.f0a29ab6b7ffe4e986c0e5066d089742.jpg

    124b.jpg.3ed1b0af268f865de24d151793fb526d.jpg

    125.thumb.JPG.0d452bed7a3582a22f59bd7f912e05b0.JPG

    Dutch.

    1744335757_125aBelgianBD.jpg.86cfb54b4e7bcf102d9ba88673a42f6e.jpg

    Belgian.

    1417681281_125bRAAFBombDisposalNewGuinea_1942.jpg.5f6499086f45733d57f6b3f9147e0948.jpg

    RAAF BD New Guinea 1942.

     

    126.thumb.JPG.4c4dd5b4e3bf8a54c6bd3d05baa0bd2d.JPG

    German.

    127.thumb.jpg.81f1d021e2cd59df4fc871db6c589d8f.jpg

    Ministry of Supply with civilian driver Fred Hards.

    128.thumb.jpg.ad2c127c87e235ebb6edc33ce2f4a1ab.jpg

    This lorry was used in support of Bomb Disposal experiments by the Earl of Suffolk who was employed by the Ministry of Supply's scientific arm.

    Didn't end well. The Earl, his driver Fred, and his secretary, Eileen Morden, along with a number of Royal Engineers, were killed on Erith Marshes when a bomb they were working on exploded.

    130.thumb.JPG.9cfcacf4186c43a8a4ee3a6503b3f8a0.JPG

    129.thumb.jpg.06f663333b614bc994b3c45d64ace928.jpg

    1962711713_133bWESTERNDESERTEGYPT.1942-10.MENOFTHE9THAUSTRALIANDIVISIONALENGINEERSWITHANEWTYPEOFANTI-MINEDEVICE..jpeg.c3b7c1fa7d4e39d6f34f4ba1e1885a6b.jpeg

    Men of the 9th Australian Div Engineers making mine rollers out of concrete filled oil drums in Egypt. 1942.

    133c.jpeg.e979bc81ebeb2bbb6fee55ee977af2e6.jpeg

    351248147_133a1942Improvisedminerollersmadefromconcretefilledoildrums.jpeg.800cbd24c11641ddb7d7544c94828d22.jpeg

    199780953_132-AustralianEOD-NORTHVIETNAM.C_1970.THEEXPLOSIVEORDNANCEDISPOSALTEAMBASEATCUAVIET..jpeg.229a1409434126566b1a5bff2ca5ff09.jpeg

    Australian EOD Vietnam - Base at Cua Viet 1970

    And lastly a bouncing bomb, also known as an Austin/Morris.

    1973382646_131.BouncingbombandthatsjusttheAustin!.jpg.48f8b3ece49a360a3728139be1cc5977.jpg

    • Like 2
  3. Yes - unfortunately not many records are digitised. The series of files AIR 81 are still being sent from the MoD to The National Archives, they have only sent the early war years, but a couple of accidents relating Aberporth are already at the archives under this class-  https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=air+81+aberporth Sometimes these AIR 81 files have witness statements by fitters/mechanics as Court of Inquiries wanted statements about the air worthiness of aircraft involved.

    • Like 1
  4. The National Archives holds this war diary; -     

    AIR 29/880/10 - 1609 Target Towing Flight, Aberporth; became 1609 Anti-Aircraft Co-operation Flight, February 1943. Part of 70 Group (TT AAC UK). With appendices

    1609 Target Towing Flight, Aberporth; became 1609 Anti-Aircraft Co-operation Flight,... | The National Archives

    That record only goes up to 1943 when 1609 disbanded, so won't cover the period of being in Europe after D-Day. However, it might be worth looking at War Diary - AIR 27/2056 - No 595 Squadron: Operations Record Book. 1943 Dec.-1949 Jan, as first page says the Squadron was formed at Aberporth when 1609 disbanded. It might give clues to units he may have later been a part of?-

    Aber.thumb.jpg.f2a321ae700fca4f7d4ddcf172bf022c.jpg

     

  5. 3 hours ago, rog8811 said:

    A fantastic set of photo's, thanks for posting them. Would I be right in thinking that all the small stuff in the foreground of this photo are butterfly bombs?

     

    Yes- horrible things. Close to where I live some BD guys were killed in the war while clearing butterfly bombs. An officer came in the next day to finish the job and borrowed an armoured vehicle from a training area nearby (Headley Heath in Surrey). He sat in this while undertaking controlled explosions, but one of the bombs was either blown into the armoured vehicle where it then went off, or a piece of shrapnel came through the viewing slit (sources vary in detail). He was instantly killed despite the precautions taken. Yeah - brave men indeed.

  6. Photos of Royal Navy bomb disposal vehicles from WW2 are a bit elusive. Probably this is due to the fact the Navy's BD responsibilities in the UK was for their own properties, so Dockyards, where a vehicle or lifting equipment could no doubt be found as and when necessary. The other ordnance worked on was UXBs lodged in ships, or in coastal areas, and for nautical weapons such as German parachute mines or our own depth charges at Coastal Command aircraft crash sites, etc.

    Generally a staff car would take the BD officer to the site and the Royal Engineers would provide a vehicle for any heavy work needed. On the continent Port Clearance Naval Parties would have their own transportation, but not much in the way of photos about.

    Anyway here are a couple of RN BD vehicle photos 106.jpg.57e4f6b1fd33ab90bdf5470434d99daa.jpg-

    Just look at that dangerous thing! - I mean the trip hazard broom waiting for a Tom & Jerry moment.

    107.thumb.JPG.3ada4a6bcfb0e32678646e823a47382f.JPG

    108.thumb.JPG.1b72cefa8f96916f075237482e8d5c72.JPG

    109.thumb.JPG.aff01b84df8fa4fb5098854148c273a6.JPG

    111.thumb.JPG.cfcc092b758a1bc1eac3d53606e2a208.JPG

    110.thumb.JPG.07a2b79838954f54268b2ea786a79598.JPG

    3778811.jpeg.6b3d1392adb349c765904a78c8c6f667.jpeg

    Above - Brighton, England. Informal portrait of three members of the Enemy Mining Section (EMS) of HMS Vernon standing at the rear of their work van. The three had just taken part in the retrieval, rendering safe, and removal of a German anti-shipping moored mine.

    620777616_112_RMS.jpeg.6f46810cb15fd25ebb4fb10455347d22.jpeg

    Lieutenant Commander Leonard (Leon) Verdi Goldsworthy GC DSC GM, RANVR an Australian member of the Rendering Mines Safe (RMS) Section 

    113.thumb.jpg.05cf3382978c7d06ae4640d0a872de24.jpg

    Ordnance recovered in Malta. One can only imagine how light the steering felt driving with this thing hanging off the back!

    Couple of more modern shots -

    113a.jpeg.8897b5c0c649e0bd11d879f503faa01a.jpeg

    634683275_113bFar-East-Clearance-Divng-Team-1963-1965.jpg.ea7dffc69add0825dea7bd2206b229a9.jpg

    Far East Clearance Diving Team

     

     

    • Like 2
  7. Some post-war in no particular order -

    44.thumb.JPG.2c1537dfd76caa3524b70bab559b248c.JPG

    45.thumb.JPG.73554226eb871feb60d3c962d1b3c8f5.JPG

    46.thumb.JPG.ebfcf88845cc46e5241b7bbc66d24ef3.JPG

    47.thumb.JPG.29e342fa96dd1e82ea30e07f8f75594d.JPG

    48.thumb.JPG.55dbce800469bf212ef04de1e2370dbe.JPG

    49.thumb.JPG.ff24e1c9c33b922905de6aa5a83a5bf5.JPG

    50.thumb.JPG.69f87d7ff5f19805a39421c408f1de34.JPG

    51.thumb.jpg.d2920fd02e217fd905ddf444955e78f9.jpg

    52.thumb.jpg.a162da15d4a40d0bbdf6c126226f1a96.jpg

    53..thumb.JPG.ec3bd7ce752ca60fde229ddd06c08f85.JPG

    54.thumb.JPG.10697af5e404cc470f2fe017fa323576.JPG

    55.thumb.JPG.1e822aad4af35799af927924a598bf99.JPG

    56.thumb.jpg.eee34c54dd4d035176ac204913b2726c.jpg

    58.thumb.JPG.57d89ba0fc66dfd26181dd99f1002960.JPG

    Apparently one of these Cuthbertsons got well and truly bogged down at Orfordness and had to be winched out by 71 MU. They got a surprise as it was up to its windows in water and looked like a normal Land Rover until they started pulling it out!

    57.thumb.JPG.e09b1b826a882ebed7833633aea8bc6f.JPG

    59.thumb.JPG.3dc7995b2dbb2db51fc6f531a1716955.JPG

    60..thumb.jpg.98c4a6df7169921b1ec96711f7b07d2b.jpg

    61..thumb.jpg.4990fce90187c0425fe990ee69834a64.jpg

    62.thumb.jpg.8d78417faa828c08a1f0683662216e51.jpg

    63.jpg.2d70659a4e8d9502b776eac6145baf69.jpg

    64.thumb.jpg.9c73173a36e09c3cdd3d547ab53c230c.jpg

    Above taken 1964ish - 6204 BD Flt - Nuthampstead bomb store.

    65.thumb.JPG.9a9d6de7278857aee827a4050a1dc1d8.JPG

    1971.

    66.thumb.jpg.3754f4f829583d0361c3a3b4972d57f5.jpg

    Cyprus 1974.

    67.thumb.JPG.fe25374af452936846e77ef747fbdd0c.JPG

    little mishap - March 1982 - Theddlethorpe.

    68.thumb.JPG.895c6e89b0d9ec62f20bd0744e5771ad.JPG

    Larnaca Range, Cyprus - 1985.

    69.thumb.jpg.2cb8eceffd563020eaad6bc35e684213.jpg

    Hopefully something for everyone in that little lot!

    Will post some Royal Engineers photos later.

     

    • Like 5
  8. 26a.thumb.jpg.f6c114452b212617351a3541322acbaa.jpg

    27.thumb.jpg.74e456e59de59538631c19103cb9ad9f.jpg

    28.thumb.JPG.13d11b5aa9f1b958784890ceb33989c9.JPG

    29.thumb.JPG.fd36e3e9fd8588b86a0812a6b1e9c7c3.JPG

    29a.thumb.jpg.c261196b1ac4d7a551fa505e1cc2538c.jpg

    Above - July 1941 RAF and RE worked on bombs at the crash site of a Ju88 at Staithes.

    30.thumb.JPG.304fc6a00bf97bd0971c72f185f1c3f4.JPG

    31.thumb.jpg.779b8532224f6233255846ef5519a0c8.jpg

    32..JPG.48b36e0f56b88347cffaff9fd4c57639.JPG

    34.thumb.JPG.042bf8b753c9f257773d05950ecc6f17.JPG

    35.thumb.JPG.eab4034715873fb81e57b293b5635803.JPG

    36.thumb.JPG.5842f56f8fc49d6baad9cc072bd37fa6.JPG

    Above - 6223 BD Flt

    37.thumb.JPG.46fd3ddbd905aadbadb97ed0e7ea533c.JPG

    2 BDS RAF – May 1942

    38.thumb.JPG.ff60777ee96f402b3186ada3546bfd95.JPG

    39.thumb.JPG.a3802273b4c0659fe5aca2e603086a52.JPG

    KIM is a magnetic clock-stopper.

    40.thumb.JPG.562bb4eed09a5979af4c2ce9d49817bd.JPG

    BD staff car Holland 1944

    41.thumb.JPG.8bc27e4906ef3722e2474ce33c5868ca.JPG

    Ford utility Staff car - Holland 1944.

    41a..thumb.png.6c4974c8206698f79be6b6d2754002b0.png

    The above photo was taken on Isle of Sheppey in Nov 1941, when the RAF helped the Navy work on an unexploded parachute mine. They found 4 wheel drive Bedford 3 ton lorries were the most suitable means of transport. They initially had to carry rubble to build a roadway. Numerous trips were made carry equipment etc, the total mileage of all the vehicles involved was 857 miles!

    42.thumb.JPG.ea4f89c66ac90f66e41b23d017107818.JPG

    A number of RAD BD personnel were killed when an explosion occurred while they were unloading a lorry of ordnance at Welscap bomb dump in October 1945.

    42a.thumb.jpg.a1b7802f719b29437ba1cbdef7453b09.jpg

    43.thumb.JPG.63a776c304aaf81d367f8b58dd135c0c.JPG

    They were buried at Tilberg, Holland.

    43a.thumb.jpg.c2f191cf48a1b9c6c8ac867f5cac0a62.jpg

    Germany June 1945

    43b.thumb.JPG.3254b61863a548da9ca70ddea3fa4c02.JPG

    • Like 2
  9. Thought for my first posting on this forum I’d bring this old thread back to the top. Not sure if this is the right place, as this post will cover a multitude of types of vehicle, but makes sense to me to have it all in the same place.

    So - For years I’ve been collecting, researching and writing about WW2 bomb disposal of all three services. As a result have come across numerous photographs of the vehicles involved. Thought I’d share them here, as this seems to be the best place for anyone looking for reference material.

    I have lots of photos, so will break them down into the different services. I’ve also included a few post war ones too, that hopefully will also be of interest. – Moderators – If I’ve over stepped the mark with too many photos, then please do delete the post.

    Though many vehicles in the photos are partially obscured by people and bombs, hopefully there are details captured in them, such as camouflage patterns or unit markings, that may help anyone restoring a vehicle, or modellers that may use this site for reference. (To help I’ve included dates where known).

    It’s interesting to see that the instructions regarding the bomb disposal markings, stated that ‘BDS’ was to painted on the front ‘other than’ on the windscreens, as this was clearly ignored on occasions by all three services.

    1.thumb.JPG.b8e975ee1c67b5b6b1bcd2048c999ee8.JPG

    And in answer to Bryan’s question, (of 9 years ago!), mention is made of red wings on an RAF Bomb Disposal Humber car in May 1942 in the book ‘A Cold Blooded Business’ by S/Ldr Haarer, so they must have followed the army’s lead very quickly, as they did when the BD insignia was introduced for the army’s uniform.

    When it came to bomb disposal in WW2, all three services helped out each other, this included use of their vehicles.

    2.jpg.42e61798bde5f739437813b86513077a.jpg

    For instance the Royal Navy’s ‘Land Incident Section’ that dealt with parachute mines dropped on land, had RASC drivers take them to the site of the unexploded mines in Admiralty staff cars, (I’ve seen mention of Humbers), and the local Royal Engineers unit would provide a suitable vehicle to carry away the ‘hopefully’ disarmed mine’s carcasses.

    3.png.95db0785fe5dcaf59c96dd0a3f099f10.png

    Below are photos of Royal Engineers delivering parachute mines to HMS Mirtle (South Downs at Buriton) for the Navy to steam out the explosives.

    3a.jpg.62f3e535730c9a9eb358078c08c272a3.jpg3aa.jpg.168f895ae2bdd0792d14b170af48a8e5.jpg

    3b.jpg.72dd63cc7d5f27f7417ef03b136071be.jpg

    Civilian vehicles would also be pressed into service, such as local garage’s tow trucks, or local ‘Corporation’ lorries, etc, often with their regular civilian drivers behind the wheel.

    4.thumb.jpg.486d8c19b4d18c9330c5345acb80cc24.jpg

    Anyway, here are the photos of the military vehicles.

    First the RAF, starting with a rather unusual one.  This French tank had been captured by the Germans, then in 1944/45 it was utilised by 6210 Bomb Disposal Flight to help in the clearance of minefields in NW Europe.–

    5.thumb.jpg.6aad088d75ae7e21fd1c5856b7d84c19.jpg

    6.thumb.jpg.6f3648a7de8b655b564865fc6acd264b.jpg

    7.jpg.94aaf8b97e2a2072d4508ab8b5443dae.jpg

    8..thumb.jpg.6ced061dc1fe8501cf65b37c5a00843f.jpg

    9.thumb.JPG.ad45a29b42af76b959d6a3f2459e8e6e.JPG

    10..thumb.jpg.81bb9acbaab1e2f5ab8643137f208523.jpg

    11..thumb.JPG.6feef9ee1e8a1a6a5f55a970b80c5215.JPG

    12.thumb.JPG.d0b740a36febaef45642e14caef7efcc.JPG12.thumb.JPG.d0b740a36febaef45642e14caef7efcc.JPG13.thumb.JPG.a9387450594605577e5711ef9b0ebe1b.JPG

    14.thumb.JPG.71d79b221e80baf7b265f3cf86cd0354.JPG

    15.thumb.jpg.89254d2856bcfdf922c63c616e2e8e18.jpg

    16.thumb.JPG.ec8f68ca4a7620a7291aa355822ab162.JPG18.thumb.JPG.19ecefe1196b31e1445bad641dfc48f1.JPG

    19.thumb.JPG.648321e86e6a1f45d35f7341aa71f8ac.JPG

    20.thumb.JPG.88a452b7658fa6a09a95cfa6abb6284a.JPG

    21..thumb.jpg.fc906cf6a81571aad0a8c9a644c2fa1a.jpg

    22.thumb.jpg.643bcc6dfcae7ef5a6d615355425b7a9.jpg

    24..thumb.JPG.1d91618f13eb2d2ad65d42dc87c9db85.JPG

    6229 BD Flt with 2000lb British bomb recovered from Antwerp Fort and demolished at Leopoldsburg August 1945.

    25.thumb.JPG.4501fd2b29bddd11d7dfc169a2ff98c6.JPG

    26.thumb.JPG.132c9a57fb11dfc6a1563190e0a5d174.JPG

    • Like 3
  10. Hi All,

    My name is Chris. Born 20 years after the war, I have had a long time interest in WW2, particularly the British Home Front and anything relating to aviation of that period.

    I have written a number of books and magazine articles on the subject of wartime bomb disposal and have a collection of BD related memorabilia/relics.

    Though I’ve always been into old cars, I don’t actually own a military vehicle at present. (I have a 1950 Mercury Coupe, and an early style hot rod Model A Ford). There is an itch, however, for owning a small wartime vehicle such as a jeep or Austin Tilly. Closest I’ve got currently is this! (Photographed at Kenley aerodrome):-

    2_edited.thumb.jpg.eed89b8228c9fb7bbd4b942b7147a0de.jpg

    1_edited.thumb.jpg.6598626016202bb0f634077cd9bc58ce.jpg

    This ‘reproduction’ bike came about because of the recent introduction of the extended Ultra Low Emissions Zone in London, meaning I can no longer commute all the way in to work in my modern (but not modern enough!) hatchback. I now carry the bicycle in the back of the car and cycle the last few miles. I have tried to recreate this 1940’s style RAF BD bicycle to do the job.

    I know the RAF blue colour went out around the Battle of Britain, though bicycles might not have been considered for repainting anyway, (if indeed they were blue to start with), and it’s unlikely they would have bothered to paint red wings on a cycle or the other markings. But as bicycles were regularly borrowed on air bases without permission, they might have done the red wing thing to show it belonged to their unit. I’ve marked it up as belonging to a unit that operated in the Kent/Surrey area.

    I needed a box on the front to carry my work’s laptop and my lunch, so using a utilitarian ‘make do and mend’ approach, I’ve fitted a period correct light-weight aluminium container (actually a bread bin!) I know there are other inaccuracies, like 26” wheels and small frame, but at the end of the day it has to fit in the back of a hatchback as a ‘practical’(?) daily commuting bike.

    Anyway, enough of the fake, (though I prefer the word ‘tribute’), bicycle.

    I will post some proper wartime bomb disposal vehicle photos shortly.

    Cheers

    Chris

     

    • Like 2
×
×
  • Create New...