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Another view:

A nice Flying Control Jeep:

Swivel or tyres. Tyres will get a flat spot if the truck has been standing a long time. Over inflate and test again...

New scammer, same thing 'if you still need the part I still have it'

franksparesltd@gmail.com

...feel free to spam this one or any of the others back!

Update:

A new scammer.... here is the typical reply to the wanted ad - all fake!

Jim Romero <jimsautomotiveltd@gmail.com>

Hello,

I am emailing with respect to your advert. Please let me know if you are still in need of the above and I'll get back to you. What's your phone #?

Many thanks,

Jims Vintage Auto Shop

Jims Romero

Huntsville, AL 35810

USA.

All a scam. I just hope nobody gets caught out!

Just had another email same as the first two:

jimsautomotiveltd@gmail.com

What a bunch of losers

Just an update. The US bank have identified the 'scam artist' as they call him from the person whose account he had been using and US Law Enforcement are going to monitor him and act.

A good result

His name was John Homles.

homlesjohn72@gmail.com

Bank name: red stone

Account name: Karen Romero

Account number: 51004757301

Routing number: 262275835

Bank address:3501 memorial pkwy nw, Huntsville, Al 35810

The other one was from:

steve.baileyspares@gmail.com

Same scam same day

This happens a lot, it just shows you can't be too careful. The thing I have always done is go 'technical' I had one of the NZ Oil and Gas ones last year and strung him along with faults in the jeep I had for sale, like 'I'm being honest in saying it has an issue with the heat exchanger the air conditioning light shows a defective disconbobulator' the reply was just a 'no problem' with repeated purchase instructions for him to pay by escrow.

They really are just Scum

Having placed a wanted ad for a Willys engine I received two replies on Friday both from 'Texas' asking if I was still looking as they had engines. One went quiet when I asked for photos, the second I have strung along asking if the jeep engine had two cam covers, a front distributor and a chamfered inlet (whatever that is!) and he replied each time YES and repeatedly asked for a bank transfer and 'would ship straight away'.

The second one also sent a plausible description of the engine which I found was lifted from a 2010 ad on HMVF.

So no one gets conned in the future make sure the seller has the item, as neither of these two had, and try asking strange technical questions and when they reply yes to anything they are SCAMMERS.

It is clear this forum is watched and used by these fraudsters.

So, 'John' and 'Steve' **** off you miserable b*****rds

Mods please put this post where it will get maximum attention

Thanks

I'm looking for an MB engine pre MB105000 to go with the age of the jeep. Anything considered and very good price paid. Even just a block would be fine.

I think you are right on the paint- its was a very thorough professional job and got into every corner so that means it was to a specification and supervised. On thebasis the Rootes work was a rebuild/overhaul (we don't know to what extent- but enough to put a plate on!) thet must have been painted then. I think your finding the blue over green etc is conclusive that it was post war, not a bare metal job but top spec. That also accounts as one reason for why some (Norway etc) Dodges are so rust free- they have the extra paint protection. The blue paint is behind the Rootes plate and so on the basis they were unlikely to have been painted blue between 1945 and 1955 it must have been doneby Rootes. That's a theory- but does anyone have a Norwegian etc Dodge or one with a Rootes plate that is NOT blue??? - that would test it.

Apart from questions why blue? ( I have a mate who says that no Allied nations weren't allowed any camouflage colours after the war), there's the question what level of rebuild, and also where did they come from ie as distinct from those that ended up in France as fire tenders etc - or were they also Rootes but painted red and used more???

We need a Rootes worker!!!! Or a historian. It wasn't that long ago so someone will know.

When I got my 1945 Willys MB from Norway, it had a Rootes 1953 rebuild plate. My current 1944 Dodge WC51 has one too, also ex-Norway.

I recall when I enquired about the Rootes rebuilds on the G503 some years back, the answer was that Rootes were contracted to refurbish surplus vehicles that were to be supplied under MAP (Marshall Assistance program). I know Norway was a large recipient of vehicles, and possibly some/all of the following: Denmark, Greece, France.

 

On the blue paint found on ex-Norway jeeps and/or Dodges, I was assured by the guys at Jeepfabrikken (Frank Berg & Co) that the Norwegian Air Force didn't paint their vehicles blue, but I have found evidence of jeeps & Dodges being used in Europe post-war by the USAAF/USAF. I have a picture, somewhere, of a Dodge WC51 in blue with yellow hood number that had been restored to match a late 1940's picture of a similar Dodge in USAF service in Germany. I have no evidence to support, but this could be one explanation.

Very interesting. Is the plate 1953 or 5?. Could you put a photo up? I wonder if anyone has the definitive list of where vehicles went- I am certainly aware of ww2 jeeps being 'released from the Greek reserve' in the early 90's.

As regards the blue- it doesnt appear to be over green, if it is its well done! It seems to be a feature of a number of Dodges as well as various used parts for sale- its as if it was the original colour on a lot of Dodges??

Sorry mate, thought it was clear :embarrassed:.

 

Have done a bit of checking and the contract number on the plate was one from European Command, US Army, so looks like they were rebuilt by Rootes, for the Americans for Mutual Aid to Norway.

Thats what I think its boiling down to...the Dodges seem to be in similar good condition too, so the rebuild was probably a full one and the trucks then put into store in Norway- mine has done very little mileage since- in 1995 it was 3000 miles. The other local Rootes Dodge has a later left rear side with larger fuel filler, pressed hooks etc so maybe they sustained damage in WW2. I wonder what the criteria was for bringing them back, rebuilding and sending to Norway. I will look into the Rootes archive suggested by Melchy.

Does anyone know where and when they were sold by Norway??

What level of rebuild would be likely?

Both mine and the local one have the dark blue paint left in places. Whats that all about??

More questions - sorry!!

Al

Richard never said Chrysler and Dodge weren't linked, he said they weren't linked to Rootes until the 1960's which is correct.

Degsy - Funny old thing the English language!!! Thanks

Chrysler and Dodge were not linked or associated to Rootes until the mid-1960's.

Yes I am confused- here is another plate from the WC51 - it states 'Dodge Trucks Manufactured by Chrysler Corporation'. Its fixed to the front of the left stowage facing the spare wheel.

Whats yer answer to that then???!

Al

Hi Al,

Mine is Contract DA 91 564 EU96 Date is 6.55 rebuilt then shipped to Norway. Ben Hur ended up in Holland (Rootes London ) Friends GMC was Rootes London 1955 shipped to Norway.

 

Regards

 

Ken

Thanks Ken, I wonder if there are any other Contracts- there seems to be just one. All the Dodges were in one place at the same time it looks.

Al

My jeep is ex Norwegian and is a Rootes 1955 rebuild and my Ben Hur is a Rootes rebuild (London ) I have seen quite a few Jeeps Dodges and GMC all Norwegian Rootes re builds. Would be nice to find out more on the Rootes re build history.

Regards

Ken

Ken

What date is the plate and the job number?

Rootes=Chrysler=Dodge, so were they effectively sent to the British Dodge manufacturing plant for a refit??

Interesting stuff. Hopefully someone will know the answers...

Al

I have an early Dodge WC 51 with a Rootes Ltd Manchester rebuild plate, dated 9/55. Extraordinarily the nearest WC 51 is also has a Rootes plate dated 10/55. The only other one I can find on the net is on a jeep 6/55. Please see photos.

Does anyone have any information as to the history behind this? were they destined for the British Army or exported to Europe? Where did the Dodges (and Jeep) come from?

Many thanks

Al

1941 Slat Grille Jeep - Wilys - Does anyone have available a black steering wheel or a set of solid rimmed wheels? Good price paid.

Thanks.

A