Bibulgomme

Hi,

happy end of year holidays everyone.

with Foxtrott363 and other friend help's, I understand the problem origine.

 I use now a CPU n°5820-99-117-5043 (no ANR) for two radios

In the L807 mod  inst No16 the are a Note:

The CPU (ANR) should only used with a CBF (ANR) or CBF (D) (ANR). Use with  CBF or CBF(D) Will cause damage to the harness.

The major difference between CBF (black) and CBF (ANR) is H pin fonction  to 10 pt plug

In a wiring diagram with no (ANR) CBF and CPU , the H pin is in the 0V

Then when I have should use my CPU (no ANR) in  my CBF (ANR), I make a nice short-circuit with the H pin.

My soluce was to transform my CPU no ANR to CPU ANR.

then my first modification has been the wiring diagram n°3 below 

the winring diagram n°2 below is a cabling observed.

This modification (digram n°3) run  but after talking about it with a clansman specialist. The ANR micro dont like a 24V and it must be run with 12-13V supply only.

Then it's necessary to make a 12 power supply regulator in between H ans C pin.
H=18/24V
C=12/13V

In the CPU (ANR) wiring diagram  above, the 13v regulator is in the red circle but it's 1980's electronic.

I replace this by a L7812 regulator with 2 diode 1N4447 for add 2x0.6V and 1x C1 100nF.

yelow paint in the button

Control and test for validation with labo supply in  In Volt regulation.

13.2 V between C pin and B pin  of 7PT plug headset

all is OK good work.

There are a low current, only 200mA

Thank you again for the help of Foxtrott363 and Clive without whom I would not have found a soluce.

I hope my research will be useful to other users

Regards,

Today ,I continue my investigations with an many electrical mesures and control  to determine a basic wiring diagram

FOR

UNIT PERSONAL COMMANDER

5820 99 117 4349

Mesures and control on CPU: (radio selector= R_IC,R_A,R_B,R_C and  monitor switch O or Ø)

Side Connector 7pt-F Audio                                              Connector 10pt-M Commander              

A_a            Intercom microphone +VE                        

B_a            Intercom microphone –VE                                E_c       

D_a            Left earphone                                                          B_c

E_a            Earphone and PTT ground                               (if R_IC=K_c; if R_A=K_cJ_c ;if R_B=K_cA_c ;
                                                                                                             if R_C=K_cJ_cA_c)+IfØ=C_c

F_a             PTT when 1600ohm to ground                  NON Connected

G_a            Right earphone                                             ifO=B_c ifØ=D_c

Hypothèse déduites:

Connecteur 10 pt-M commander                                                                      

A_c

B_c left erphone                                                            

C_{c = K  if}Ø 

D_c

E_c Intercom microphone – VE                                   

F_c                                                                                      

G_c

H_c  if Press TT =K_c+B_c ifØ

J_c(10)                              

K_c(12)

Connecteur 10 pt-M box fixed                                                                      

A_b

B_b  A set micro +ve

C_b

D_b

E_b

F_b

G_b

H_b +28 supply

J_b

K_b Earth

what I understand, when I press a PTT of CPU  i make i short circuit betwen H and K of CBF.

Now, it seems that the CPU is not compatible with my CBF or I am  not good cable, perhaps  it s nebessary a twisted cable.

do you think there are two CPU systems? 

Or twisted cable?

Which could be help me is a wiring plan for the commander's cable

and a wiring diagram of CPU and  of CBF.

If a member of the HMVF had this in their hat it would be good luck for me

Hi,

In my Ferret, i have a intercom Clansman with new install CBF (commander box fixed) and a  CPU (commander personal unit 5820-99-117-4349) connected with a 10pin cable.

The Commanders 10pt cable was broken

                also  I have repaired this  pin to pin (A2A; .B2B;..........; K2K;J2J)

Its a picture of my CPU--> 

When i connect all, it s OK , I have a 500mA of consumption in circuit, no problem when i turn a CPU's monitor switch or CPU's radio selector .But  I have  a short circuit fault when i use the press to talk button of CPU. (I have already burnt 2 fuses)

Now for test,  I use a laboratory power supply with Amp regulation.

I have make a another test with a new CBF but  I have a same fault.

I don't understand the breakdown. 

Does somebody have an idea?

Thanks

Et encore bien d'autre jouet pour grand garçon adulte dont je ferai des photos ultérieurement Aro M461, Unimog,.....
And many other toys for big adult boys which I will take pictures of later,Aro M461, Unimog, ........

Sinon tous les véhicules fonctionnent correctement,
Otherwise all vehicles are working properly,

pour l'Austin j'ai déjà refait la mécanique et les freins son neuf avec du liquide au silicone.
for the Austin I have already redone the mechanics and the brakes its new with silicone liquid.

          Je rénoverai la carrosserie plus tard car maintenant je préfère jouer avec le Daimler Ferret.
           I will renovate the body later because now I prefer to play with the Daimler Ferret.
         

Pour Le Daimler Ferret je fais me contenter de le compléter au niveau radio puisqu'il n'y a que les intercoms non ANR
For Le Daimler Ferret I am content to complete it on the radio level since there are only non-ANR intercoms

petite photo de famille avec la Roayl Enfield (fabrication indienne) au centre
small family photo with the Roayl Enfield (Indian manufacturing) in the center

and My MUTT A1 

J ai quelques autres véhicules avec lesquels je me promène en famille le week quand le soleil brille.
I have a few other vehicles that I drive with my family on weekends when the sun is shining.

DKW Munga

Bonjour,

Je suis un petit nouveau sur le forum, j'habite la région Lorraine en France et je suis un fier possesseur d'une Austin Champ avec set C12 et d'une Daimler Ferret MK1/2 que je restaure.

I am a newcomer to the forum, I live in Lorraine in France and I am a proud owner of an Austin Champ with set C12 and a Daimler Ferret MK1 / 2 which I am restoring.

J ai trouvé ce forum très riche en information et en partage d'astuce entre propriétaire.

I found this forum very rich in information and sharing of tips between owners.