Gavla

Hi Rob,

I have had a bit to do with the one at Firepower. It was originally restored by its owner in Essex or thereabouts, many years ago, there was a write up in MVT magazine at the time. I did some work on it at REME workshops when it stood outside the Rotunda museum. It seems it had a naval Bofors on it. Years later, when they set up the Firepower museum it was sent of to an artillery / gun restorer who, I was told at the time, was going to fit the correct type of Bofors on it. So be aware it is not a vehicle that has been kept together throughout its life.

 

regards, Richard

Hi Richard

I'm having some trouble sending private messages and I wondered can you please respond to this one and send a private message, so I can see my messages are getting through.

Cheers

Gavin

Hi,

 

It looks like the gearbox is the same as on the Morris compressor truck including the extra drive bit, of which we have a spare if you are interested.

 

PM me if you need one.

 

Cheers,

 

Andy

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Hi Gavin.

Yes someone has had a good chip around on the cross members but the bulk of it is fine. Not sure If the chassis on my c9/b is better or not. Will find out when it is home. The spare chassis may become surplus to my needs at a later date so if you needed it for the rails i may be willing to part with it but I want to keep it for a while as yet even if I don't use it.

Yes bonnet looks a bit awkward in places, far beyond my fabrication skills. But you never know what will turn up over the next couple of years.

From memory I think several of the dials are in place on mine but the whole dash area is pretty rotten but may be salvageable. The jacks are probably going to be the awkward thing for you I would imagine although you have one to copy.

Your not wrong, I might have to chat up my friendly engineer in the terms of the jack situation.

Spent today collecting spares including engine, gearbox, chassis, head and starter

 

Hi Martyn, good find!

The chassis rails don't look to bad, but the cross members look a bit worst for wear. Unfortunately I'm going to have to fabricate a new o/s chassis rail on mine. Like a fool I scraped 2 Austin k2 ambulance chassis after I had broken them up for sale and parts for my self and a friend. Now finding out that I could have done with keeping them for the cross members.

The bonnets I don't think would be to hard to manufacture, it's the lower panel with the louvers in that could be a bit of a cow to re-make!! I have some spare wheels, which you are welcome to if you need one or two - long way off I know!!

Fortunately I was lucky that the dash retained all of it's dials in fantastic order. How that happened I have no idea!

Cheers

Gavin

Hi Martyn the Morris looks great! I wouldn't say the one on Millweb was better, but yes your right there are parts on both vehicles that would benefit each one. I picked the other one up on the low-loader on Saturday and it now sits at the farm. Perhaps we might need to stay in touch reference parts for pattern making and where parts/items go and so on ? Would be cool to see both of them on the show scene in the distant future !!! Best regards Gavin

Hi,

Does anyone have any information regarding the quantities and items stored in the lockers of a Quad i.e how many cammo nets, poles, and pegs, winch gear, shovels, pick axes, and so on...in particular how many C.206, C267, P59, P60 ammo boxes are stored on the vehicle.

Also has anybody got diagrams on how to stencil the above ammo boxes in the correct places, with the correct information.

Cheers

Gavin

Here are the pics of the engine as promised - somewhat late!! Probs with downloading photos from my phone to the computer!! The gold looking paint on the aluminum is actually the sage green colour.

P.s. I can send more pics if required.

Many thanks

Gavin

will take a couple of pics over the weekend and send them to you

Hi, Can anyone help me...I've started to restore my Karrier WO6 and I have started to re-build the engine, butI have no manual for Dorman engine. Could anyone shed some light on the value clearances? The head number is 16212 with an engine number of 20702 (1929)

Also, the head is painted black...is this correct? The rest of the engine is in it's bear aluminum, although when cleaning the engine I have found, under the grime, a sage green paint on the aluminum. Should it be painted this green or left in it's bear form?

Cheers

Gavin

I am doing some improving, not restoration, to a Vulcan six wheeler. In the buff log book the colour is described as Service Green. Can anyone throw any light on what this colour is ?

Being a late 1920's vehicle could it be one of the bronze's or is it too early for these ?

Hi Bob like you i have been looking into greens to freshen up the paint work on my Karreir w06.

Im lead to believe that the pre war deep bronze green is No24 in gloss which im going to try. Will let you know how i get on.

Best regards Gavin

What a fanastic picture of the FWD R6T breakdown tractor! I note the Karrier is on single rears - the same as other photos of 'three louvred' WO6 Karriers I've seen.

 

Another rumage amongst the collection and I find this picture of the nose of MT6295 - just a few away from yours. The probability of there being a picture of your vehicle must be reasonably high. Only problem is, it's likely to be a snap shot in someone's family album!

 

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Fantastic photo, expect your right about someones old photo album languishing in a loft some where!. Will have to get some of those coveralls to go with the truck now

Have been doing a bit more digging, Commercial Motor has more with illustrations on the Artillery Transport Co. 19th March 1929 p.178-180; 3rd April 1928 p.243; a forward control version 8th Jan. 1929 p.699-701 and finally 14th Aug.1928 Australian expedition p.869. The National Motor Museum Trust library ,Beaulieu will have copies of this.

Richard Peskett.

Hi Richard, will try and contact the Motor Museum to get the info that you kindly sent me. Regards Gav.

Gavin, congratulations on obtaining one of the very few surving inter-war military vehicles. They are possibly rarer than WW1 lorries!

 

I've seen this vehicle twice before - once on the London to Brighton run as mentioned already; and also at the Enfield Pagent of Motoring about 10 years ago. I think the then owner lived in Hertfordshire somewhere.

 

It was up for sale about two years ago, a couple of adverts appeared in Classic Military Vehicle.

 

There is a little piece on the Artillery Transport Company here from the Evening Post of August 17th, 1929: http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=EP19290817.2.190.4

 

As your vehicle has a Middlesex 'MT' registration, I'll be surprised if it once belonged to the ATC fleet. I know two of their Karriers were registered in York: VY1060 and VY1076. I guess the rest were as well?

 

I also attach some photos from my collection (not for reproduction), which I hope are of interest. The bottom two clearly have a single louvre in the bonnet side panel - same as yours. I've also seen them with three louvres. I'm not sure when or why the change. Perhaps the single louvred bonnets were used on the Dorman engined lorries with the three louvred on those with Tylor engines. Who can say more?

 

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Thanks Runflat for the info, the pics are great! I have seen photos of three louvre bonnets to, one really good one of a Karrier in service in India, sent to me by my good friend Richard Farrant, see pic below:

Hi Gavin,

 

Welcome to the show, nice pics of your Karrier on the other thread. Military, yes, but it doesn't have to be green (see mine)

hi Zero-Five-Two unfortunatly the wife says it has to stay green as it matches her eyes

Thats an amazing find , is it as good in real life as it is in the photo's ! Having only seen such machines in Books I d never expect to see one out and about . Any ideas as to how many there are in the world ?

She looks even better now, washed and polished only have a few little jobs to do.

Amongst all the spares in the back body i found some paper work believing it to be the only surviving example! well only restored example!

When we did the London to Brighton run in the WD Autocar (so that must have been 1994) we saw this Karrier newly restored. The owner had gone to a yard to buy an MV (forget what it was), and found this Karrier entirely dismantled and bought it instead. I think the L to B was its first big event. In fact i dont remember seeing it anywhere else.

 

It next came up for sale and was photographed in CMV about 4 or 5 years ago. I presume that it was that owner you bought it from. A great looking truck and very unusual. Good luck with it.

Thanks for the info as im trying to track down as much as poss. I found the karrier on a farm in cambrigdeshire about 5 mouths ago

'Old Motor Magazine' , Volume 4, no. 12 (wrongly numbered 11) ,August / September 1966 has an interesting article on the 'Artillery Transport Co.' and has a copuple of Karrier pictures. Also interesting to note it appears to have survived with its original inter-war period Middlesex registration number.

Richard Peskett.

Cheers Richard will have to look out for that publication. yes your right about the reg plate

Looks great, looking forward to seeing it in the metal, any plans to go to local shows with it it?

hope to take it to beltring for its first outing next year as i have a few little jobs to do on her first, and then as may as poss

Hi Gavin , it looks fantastic , what a find , is that a track laying by the side of the lorry to wrap around the rear wheels to increase traction ?? would be ideal this weather !!, look forward to seeing the truck upclose soon ,congradulations again for a amazing find ,

Regards Adrian

Hi Adrian yep have a full set of tracks for the old girl, frightened to put them on though as the tryes are original and about 90%. Amazing what you can find in these old farm contractors yards!!

Hi Gavin ,

Have had my tractor out for 2 days now snow ploughing around Crawley west sussex , my driver got the call at twenty past five this morning (he was on stand by ) and as of twenty past seven tonight hes not back yet , long may it keep snowing ££££££££££££

Hi Adrian i quite agree havent had to start the truck for three days now [bliss]

pics of my new purchase are on the pre ww11 page karrier wo6

welcome to the forum, what sort of green you into?

 

Mark

Hi Mark all things british pre 1945 and some US kit. Unfortunatly its only wheeled kit at the mo as finances dont run to armour yet!

Hi Andy sorry to disappoint, but its real early kit that floats my boat! See the pics of her on the pre ww11, page - karrier wo6.

Hello my name is Gavin and I have finally made it to HMVF! I am a Militaria nut and love all things green!! :nut:

My wife and I have recently purchased a 'Karrier W06' and was hoping someone out there would have some pictures of the vehicle in action!!:-D

Adrain - shouldn't you have a snow plough on that and be out making some money!!! Gavin :-D