Great War truck Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 I would recommend Redhill Bearings (01444 400900). Chris Godward (ChrisG) posts on here and he is very knowledgable and was a great help to us. I am sure that he will know the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenHawkins Posted November 5, 2009 Author Share Posted November 5, 2009 Thanks Tim, One of the other things I don't think I will find is the wormshaft. I have just sent this off for a quote but I think it will be expensive. Unfortunately not something I can make myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Is it the same dimensions as ours? If so do let us know how much the quote is for. Thanks Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenHawkins Posted November 5, 2009 Author Share Posted November 5, 2009 Similar dimensions to yours but a different ratio. Before I came across the wormwheel it was 3400 pounds for the pair . I will update you when the price for just the worm comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 £3,400! Eeeekk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenHawkins Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share Posted November 23, 2009 Chris was very helpful with the bearings and delivery was speedy. I now need to put a dummy wormshaft in with the bearings to make certain I have measured the centre distance correctly and draw up the bearing arrangement to convince myself I have it right. I have known about a spare back axle for a while, but didn't think the owner would ever sell. On Thursday I had an email, so I hired a van and visited the seller on Saturday coming away with this: It is from a Dennis fire engine and although too fast for the 1908 3 ton it was an option for the 1914 2 ton. The drive was all free and easy to rotate, and full of nice thick oil when I removed the inspection plate this evening. No signs of bronze swarf, foreign object damage etc. so I am really very pleased with it. It will need a complete strip and rebuild but I am hopeful it will all be usable. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minesweeper Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 That looks good, Ben! Fun and games ahead! Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil munga Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Thats going to be a great help and probably a big saving over getting new gears cut , whats the ratio on this type of axle ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenHawkins Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 The fire engine axle is 4.85:1, but the original for the 1908 lorry was 7.1:1 Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 That does indeed look good Ben. Have you got enough bits to do a two ton Dennis? I have got a cracking picture of a WD version. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenHawkins Posted November 25, 2009 Author Share Posted November 25, 2009 I have the chassis, wheels, front axle, this complete rear axle, gearbox (missing a mounting lug), steering box/column (bent), bulkhead and brackets, later brake and gear levers to modify to the earlier pattern, and a later radiator that fits. I also have a flywheel and clutch but unfortunately only one engine between my two Dennis kits. So yes a 1914 WD 2 ton would certainly be an option although there is also the possibility of getting the original registration for it as a grocers delivery lorry if the research pulls off. We will have to wait and see. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogmaner Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 we have similer worm and wheels made for industrial gear boxes will try and get the name and number, they are in the brum area.the wheel pictured was about 16" diameter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenHawkins Posted April 26, 2010 Author Share Posted April 26, 2010 Thanks, I am having the worm made at the moment (due in a couple of weeks). I will post a photo when it arrives. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenHawkins Posted June 10, 2010 Author Share Posted June 10, 2010 I picked up my new worm shaft a couple of weeks ago. I made the universal joint and nuts to go with it. The gear cutters have made a nice job of it. I still have a few more collars and covers to make but hopefully I can assemble the axle soon. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bill Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 A beautiful job Ben. I'm glad we didn't have to make one! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minesweeper Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Very nice! Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Posted June 10, 2010 Share Posted June 10, 2010 Another fine piece of engineering that looks too good to hide away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 That looks wonderful. I dread to think what it cost to have made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenHawkins Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share Posted June 17, 2010 I had a vast range of quotes for it! The most expensive was 3500 pounds, but I paid less than 1/4 of that. For my 30th birthday some friends purchased "a thread" each for me. I am very lucky that my friends are so generous as it makes the whole project possible. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted June 17, 2010 Share Posted June 17, 2010 Thats less than i thought it would be - which is brilliant news. What is there to do next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenHawkins Posted June 17, 2010 Author Share Posted June 17, 2010 The two priorities at the moment are to get the chassis blasted and to do something with the two rotten wheels. This is the worst one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenHawkins Posted September 2, 2011 Author Share Posted September 2, 2011 It has been a while since I posted anything about the van so here is a photo of the new king pins I made. I mostly machined them on my very old myford lathe, using an air drill and 1/8 ball nose cutter to put in the spiral oil groove. They are made from EN24T and I finished them off on a Jones and Shipman cylindrical grinder then had them nitride hardened. I had some profiles laser cut for the radius rods. These fit to the front of the rear axle and counteract the driving torque. I then turned some spaces and bent the reinforcing ribs out of 3/8 and 1/4 steel rods. Then after a few hours work with the arc welder and angle grinder I think the first one looks quite respectable. There are still plenty of jobs to be getting on with, but I hope to have the wheens and axles on by the end of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bill Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 Nice job. I wish I could weld like that! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenHawkins Posted September 17, 2011 Author Share Posted September 17, 2011 I had almost given up hope that a suitable engine would turn up for my truck. However when I was at Beaulieu Autojumble last weekend I managed to purchase three White and Poppe cylinder blocks as were originally fitted. They are 127mm bore x 130mm stroke rather than the 110mm bore version my truck should have. As far as I can work out this engine was only supplied to Dennis and the residual black paint suggests the engine was from a lorry and not a fire engine. This size of engine was fitted to the 5 ton model. Anyway I decided to buy them in case nothing else turns up. Not enough to build an engine but perhaps more will turn up over time. The two rotten wheels rebuilt with all new wood: I still need to press the tyres on but things are progressing quite well overall. With a little bit of luck I should have the wheels and axles on by the end of the year. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great War truck Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Wonderful. I understand that the wheel right will not do any further Dennis wheels as he had too much fun doing yours? Did all the cylinder blocks come from the same stand? Quite a remarkable find. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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