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They are great fun, easy to drive, plenty of spare engines out there, no spare gearboxes, don't know where you have seen plenty for sale, there are only about 50 worldwide & they don't come up very often. They are top heavy but drive them sensibly & you will have no problems...

 

A few Fox related threads...

 

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=682

 

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=2270

 

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=4185

 

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=2781

 

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=7769

 

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=7440

 

 

 

 

 

Mine never fell over at Brand Hatch...

 

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LEE, B&E BOYES HAVE A FEW FOR SALE.

 

mike. (Ferretfixer)

 

:shake: What you may not know Mike is that Lee has seen those vehicles, has had experience of Boyes and knows someone who bought a vehicle from them .... nuff said :cool2: You'll notice that they are still for sale yet i know of 2 others sold since Boyes started advertising theirs...

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A well restored and maintained Fox is a nice vehicle to own. They are top heavy, but as long as they are driven with care they should be ok. They are fast and fun to drive but when something goes wrong it can be a pain to fix. Gearboxes are the problem area and as Lee said there are no spares. I've not seen one with a cracked hull, but there is an EMER with a load of modifications to repair cracks. Our vehicle has most of these repairs. As others have said, be careful with the ones at Boyes, if you want to know more about them PM one of us.

 

My Fox site is back up and running here: http://www.sirhc.co.uk/cvrw/ and there are tons of photos of our rebuild here: http://www.sirhc.co.uk/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=8

 

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Are you biased LB because of the Jag engine :-D

Your right i do love the Jag engine.But the 4.2 straight six happened to be one of the worst engines built by Jaguar.In the cars they were forever snapping conrods.And had major issues with over heating.

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They are great fun, easy to drive, plenty of spare engines out there, no spare gearboxes, don't know where you have seen plenty for sale, there are only about 50 worldwide & they don't come up very often. They are top heavy but drive them sensibly & you will have no problems...

 

A few Fox related threads...

 

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=682

 

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=2270

 

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=4185

 

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=2781

 

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=7769

 

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?t=7440

 

 

 

 

 

Mine never fell over at Brand Hatch...

 

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If there are only 50 left worldwide.Then what happened to the other 250 or so that made up production?. Just memorys now.But iremember seeing these along with CVRT,s every weekend trundling along Clapham road s.e.london.They were operated by the royal yeomanary T.A unit out the duke of yorks on the kings rd.You wouldnt get any T.A unit now with armour.
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If there are only 50 left worldwide.Then what happened to the other 250 or so that made up production?. Just memorys now.But iremember seeing these along with CVRT,s every weekend trundling along Clapham road s.e.london.They were operated by the royal yeomanary T.A unit out the duke of yorks on the kings rd.You wouldnt get any T.A unit now with armour.

 

136 of the rest of them donated turrets to make Sabres, I don't know what happened to the others but I suspect they were made in to hard targets or melted down. 50+/- is about right, I've been tracking them down for 6 years and new ones to me very rarely show up these days.

 

Incidently there are still TA regiments with armour... http://www.army.mod.uk/armoured/regiments/1638.aspx

 

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the 4.2 straight six happened to be one of the worst engines built by Jaguar.In the cars they were forever snapping conrods.

 

Mark,

 

The 4.2 was no better in the Fox either. The amount of engines I have changed, with gaping holes through the side. It should have had an ignition rev limiter, but apparantly, that would have been detrimental to this particular engine :???......some logic there! Also had them with camshafts broken in 3 pieces. In the CVR(T), in their early life, they were also suffering broken crankshafts, this was solved by drive shaft and mounting modifications.

Incidentally, the Royal Yeomanry had their Foxes at the Drill Hall in Mitcham Road, Croydon, along with Saracens and Ferrets, etc. There used to be a Saladin gate guard there.........is it still there?

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LEE, B&E BOYES HAVE A FEW FOR SALE.

 

mike. (Ferretfixer)

 

That ad is a few years old, at least one of them in Boyes ad is not for sale... it was sold 4 years ago to my mate & was a bag of crap when he bought it, paid top dollar for a vehicle on the road & it was far from that... wouldn't recommend Boys & Co. to anyone.. customer service is non existant...

 

As for being top heavy... this is what can happen if you get it wrong..

 

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Mark,

 

 

Incidentally, the Royal Yeomanry had their Foxes at the Drill Hall in Mitcham Road, Croydon, along with Saracens and Ferrets, etc. There used to be a Saladin gate guard there.........is it still there?

 

Yes it is still there, as is the Ferret. They had another Saladin which I made enquiries about when I was doing my HGV training there, but it was going to a museum. They tried to sell me a Saracen that had been abandoned there by a University, but not my cup of tea really.

 

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:shake: What you may not know Mike is that Lee has seen those vehicles, has had experience of Boyes and knows someone who bought a vehicle from them .... nuff said :cool2: You'll notice that they are still for sale yet i know of 2 others sold since Boyes started advertising theirs...

 

Points taken & understood! :cool2: I must say, looking at some of the other stuff they have had up for sale for a VERY long time. That also make a point! :cool2: Not impressed with thier Prices either! :nono:

 

you have to ask yourself a question, dont you? Thier main trade is house Builders. That raises the question enevitably linked with Builders, cowboys, (Indians, Etc) :cool2: Not that for one minuite am I suggesting they are Cowboys!! God Forbid........:coffee:

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I remember seeing a great quantity of Fox's sitting at the back of Ricardo Diesels of Shoreham about 10 years ago. I saw that they were ALL engineless. This was because I was told by a spoksman there. That they were all awaiting replacement Diesel engines & going to the South African Army. This contract was cancelled & they stayed there for quite a while before disposal. I heard that they ended up at Withams for sell off. (What a suprise!)

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I remember seeing a great quantity of Fox's sitting at the back of Ricardo Diesels of Shoreham about 10 years ago. I saw that they were ALL engineless. This was because I was told by a spoksman there. That they were all awaiting replacement Diesel engines & going to the South African Army. This contract was cancelled & they stayed there for quite a while before disposal. I heard that they ended up at Withams for sell off. (What a suprise!)

 

Think Chris has photos of these...

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My experiance of Boyes is not great either .A couple of years ago they had a Panhard AML90 for sale .Arrangments were made and three of us (one an army mechanic ) travelled over from Dublin,hired a car and drove to their premises .When we arrived at the premises ,the vehicle would not start someone had left the master switch on and the points were welded together.To cut a long story short he wanted £14000 and no paperwork so long steps in the opposite direction .i

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My experiance of Boyes is not great either .A couple of years ago they had a Panhard AML90 for sale .Arrangments were made and three of us (one an army mechanic ) travelled over from Dublin,hired a car and drove to their premises .When we arrived at the premises ,the vehicle would not start someone had left the master switch on and the points were welded together.To cut a long story short he wanted £14000 and no paperwork so long steps in the opposite direction .i

 

 

he has a Eland (aml 60) for that price, says professional ground up restoration

 

Mark :cool:

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136 of the rest of them donated turrets to make Sabres, I don't know what happened to the others but I suspect they were made in to hard targets or melted down. 50+/- is about right, I've been tracking them down for 6 years and new ones to me very rarely show up these days.

 

Incidently there are still TA regiments with armour... http://www.army.mod.uk/armoured/regiments/1638.aspx

 

Chris

I have heard about them being top heavy.But was that enough of a reason to withdraw them from service???. Surely from a maintaince point of view,,the drive train must be less complex than a CVRT???.I thought that would have been enough to keep them in service,or were there other issues?.
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