les freathy Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Two nice photos of the Atkinson Omega trialled and rejected by the British army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Never seen that type before Les ! Thanks for posting !:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 I think this truck owes a lot to Rotinoff, Atki's bought up the designs I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Yeah now you mention that I remember reading that somewhere ! Well done Richard ! :bow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Yeah now you mention that I remember reading that somewhere ! Well done Richard ! :bow: Here perhaps: Re: Italian heavies Quote: Originally Posted by Edd Iveco also includes Saurer. Visted their technical centre with work a few years ago. Don't forget Seddon Atkinson, which would also theoretically include Rotinoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Here perhaps: Re: Italian heavies Quote: Don't forget Seddon Atkinson, which would also theoretically include Rotinoff. No, I remembered it from coming across one of these Atki's in Australia some years ago, also saw a Rotinoff Viscount as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I don't know which Rotinoff design it couild have been based on. Not the Atlantic/super Atlantic. These were 6x4 with Kirkstall Forge front and rear axles. The only other truck Rotinoff built was the 6x4 Viscount. (also offered in an 8x4 rigid.) The Viscount was Rolls Petrol engined. This Atki is a 6x6, I am unaware of Rotinoff venturing into the all wheel drive market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 (edited) http://www.photoarchives.co.uk/acatalog/Heavy__British_Trucks.html You will see that the Omega was offered as a 6x4 but the drive to the rear axle is clearly not to an overhead worm of the Kirkstall axle Rotinoff used. (Overhead worm into Epicylclic reduction) Chris Hodges website has a side view of the Omega at Earl's Court. This clearly shows rear prop shaft driving to a conventional Hypoid type rear axle. The Front axle (driven) is very reminiscent of the AEC Matador, Militant front Axle.... Edited October 15, 2008 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 (edited) I don't know which Rotinoff design it couild have been based on. The Viscount was Rolls Petrol engined. Sorry, that info must have been from a duff source........another look and found this.. 1965, Atkinson bought up the Rotinoff spares, stock and designs and appeared to be planning production of Rotinoff-type prime moves.........but none were built.Re. the Viscount 6x4, the one I know of, was built with a Rolls supercharged diesel, 6SFL. It had a gross train rating of over 61 tonnes. Edited October 15, 2008 by Richard Farrant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Its often very hard to get accurate information, the number of times I have posted something only to be corrected... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekawrecker Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Its often very hard to get accurate information, the number of times I have posted something only to be corrected... Rotinoff Viscounts had a 250BHP C6SFL Rolls Royce Diesel fitted Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Rotinoff Viscounts had a 250BHP C6SFL Rolls Royce Diesel fitted Mike. You might both be right, I found this: As well as the Atlantic and Super Atlantic, Rotinoff built a 7.3m/24ft wheelbase Viscount GR.37/ AU load-carrying drawbar tractor suitable for Australian road train operations. This had the additional option of a Rolls Royce B.81.8P 8-cylinder gasoline engine rated at 220bhp, designated the Viscount 64.GKS. Also listed was a forward-control Viscount 84.BJS rigid eight drawbar tractor. An estimated 35 Rotinoffs were built. From 1960 onwards the company changed its name from Rotinoff Motors to Lomount Vehicle & Engineering Ltd. Later still, when Lomount ended production in 1962, the design rights were acquired by Atkinson Vehicles Lid of Walton-le-Dale, Preston, who briefly marketed the trucks under the Atkinson name badge Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 (edited) Rotinoff Viscounts had a 250BHP C6SFL Rolls Royce Diesel fitted Mike. Thanks Radiomike, yes this is the link I was basing my statement on. http://www.hcvc.com.au/press_release.htm As you say the Rolls B81 Petrol engine went into the Viscount 64.GKS Edited October 16, 2008 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Maybe Atkinson bought the rights to the Rotinoff's to stop anyone else building it in competition with the Omega, and they never had any intention of using the design themselves, cos they had their own design they thought was better????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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