6 X 6 Posted January 1, 2009 Author Share Posted January 1, 2009 Is that a Gardner under the bonnet? It certainly is. In true Gardner style there's a total eclipse of the sun every time you start it up but once it's warm, hardly any exhaust smoke at all. It's an LXB 150 uprated to 180 on the advice of Steve Guest. 'Tick Over' Ted and Steve installed it and I was told it had only done 100,000 miles when they put it in. Previously it powered a removal van. It's a very sweet engine with a lovely exhaust note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Gorgeous pics Tom ! There are a couple posted on CCMV if you are on it ! Looks like a fun day !:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted January 1, 2009 Author Share Posted January 1, 2009 Gorgeous pics Tom ! Well, I hope you like the lorry as this is the one you'll be driving on your forthcoming tour of inspection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I hope it has plastic seat covers ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 It certainly is. In true Gardner style there's a total eclipse of the sun every time you start it up but once it's warm, hardly any exhaust smoke at all. It's an LXB 150 uprated to 180 on the advice of Steve Guest. 'Tick Over' Ted and Steve installed it and I was told it had only done 100,000 miles when they put it in. Previously it powered a removal van. It's a very sweet engine with a lovely exhaust note. Slight correction there Tom, the 150 was the LX, 180 was LXB. Sounds like you enjoyed your day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted January 1, 2009 Author Share Posted January 1, 2009 Slight correction there Tom, the 150 was the LX, 180 was LXB. Sounds like you enjoyed your day. I certainly did enjoy today's outing. Thanks for putting me right, I'm no Gardner expert and was going on what Ted told me when I bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 I certainly did enjoy today's outing. Thanks for putting me right, I'm no Gardner expert and was going on what Ted told me when I bought it. I am a bit out of touch, didn't realise it was now yours, how long have you owned it? Hope you didn't mind me using 2 of your photos to answer some technical queries on the CCMV site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 (edited) I am a bit out of touch, didn't realise it was now yours, how long have you owned it? Hope you didn't mind me using 2 of your photos to answer some technical queries on the CCMV site? Please use any of my 'photos as you wish. Your informed and helpful posts are always appreciated. According to the Registration Certificate I acquired this lorry from Ted on 02 05 1999. Getting this Scammell into it's present condition has been an expensive and very time consuming business. The 'photo below shows this same lorry standing outside Ted's house in the state in which I bought it almost 10 years ago. Edited January 2, 2009 by 6 X 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Outstanding achievement Tom :shocked: ! She looks stunning now ! Preserved for future generations of Scammell nuts ! Well done :bow::bow::bow::bow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz76 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 That does look fantastic Tom. A lovely vehicle indeed and an inspiration to the rest of us. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 There are two unusual things about this ex forces 20T Constructor - 1) The front end restyling 2) Believe it or not, it is still in service - currently at J6 of M1 for the widening scheme works. Had to park and run up the slip road to grab this shot yeaterday, sadly I could not find any staff to get any info. The lifting gear is a twin boom Holmes arrangement, same as Diamond T. About 10 years ago I saw possibly the same truck at their Sandy depot, still with cycle front wings, though I thought at the time it was a civilian model. Can anyone shed any light on this / these trucks? Just found this picture on this site http://www.bseps.org.uk/scf2k8/scf2k8.html ! Still being rallied and going strong although I suspect letting the youngsters take most of the work ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor pitman Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 The pictures just dont show quite how cold it was....-2 was the best we saw at North Petherton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Trevor, any history on where your Constructor came from would be most welcome. Those new wreckers are quite something, shows how your industry has changed since the Constructor was the creme de la creme! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Getting this Scammell into it's present condition has been an expensive and very time consuming business. And what a fantastic job, not overdone - must see this in the flesh! (Andy, if you can get away with it, stick one of those davits down your trouser leg and sneak it away for me......). Which makes me wonder why you are so determined to get your mitts on PGK888, unless like me you are a total glutton for punishment :cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekawrecker Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 According to the Registration Certificate I acquired this lorry from Ted on 02 05 1999. Getting this Scammell into it's present condition has been an expensive and very time consuming business. The 'photo below shows this same lorry standing outside Ted's house in the state in which I bought it almost 10 years ago. Well Done 6 X 6, What a transformation, it looks great. A Proper Job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Stopping on the way home for a bite to eat in downtown Wedmore. There's never anywhere to park. Well done 6x6, and don't 'e look wunnerful huge outside the pub! A very satisfying day out for you I reckon, great pix :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Tony, is PGK the second MOS Constructor, otherwise known as 'Flipper' due to it's habit of throwing propshafts and rolling tanks:cool2:? It sounds about right, Mike!! PGK888 (the second of this pair) came home to me in 'as demobbed' state with a thrown rear prop, but with all good parts to repair. It sounds like you have some dirt on her which I would love to hear :-D Do please share with the rest of us. You didn't by any chance get to meet Stan Wass did you? I don't buy this Scammell prop throwing mystery stuff - there has to be an engineering explanation for it, and thus an engineering solution. I've allocated the whole of 2011 to unbolting and rebolting propshafts until it is resolved :shake::shake::shake: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Tony, is PGK the second MOS Constructor, otherwise known as 'Flipper' due to it's habit of throwing propshafts and rolling tanks:cool2:? It sounds about right, Mike!! PGK888 (the second of this pair) came home to me in 'as demobbed' state with a thrown rear prop, but with all good parts to repair. It sounds like you have some dirt on her which I would love to hear :-D Do please share with the rest of us. You didn't by any chance get to meet Stan Wass did you? I don't buy this Scammell prop throwing mystery stuff - there has to be an engineering explanation for it, and thus an engineering solution. I've allocated the whole of 2011 to unbolting and rebolting propshafts until it is resolved :shake::shake::shake: Stan wrote an article for one of the club news letters some years ago in which he mentioned the two Constructors. I don't have the article to hand so I write from memory, but apparently the second one was always a bit of a rogue, starting off on the day it was collected from Watford by breaking down with a prop centre bearing problem. On another occasion while delivering a tank it took a bend at a depot too fast and rolled the FV3601 loaded with a (Centurion?) which had to be returned to the manufacturer for repair. Stan's one had a couple of head gasket problems, but I got the impression that Stan treated his tractor with more mechanical sympathy than the other drivers and hence experienced fewer problems. Stan also mentioned that rear tyre wear was initially a problem but this was cured by lightening the ballast load carried by 2 tons or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Hang on Mike, I think we are leading each other astray. :n00b: Stan's motor was NGY593, one of the M.O.S. tank haulers. Not sure how many of these were built :confused: PKK888 was sister to PGK887 (at one time owned and rebuilt with different body and cab by Steve Guest). These two were part of an odd order for 4, the other two of which went with AndyFowler's dad to Xmas Island. Both 887 and 888 may have been in research work, although there is a suggestion somewhere that they were in fact the long-term trial vehicles. Apologies for the confusion! At least I don't have to call her Flipper!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Hang on Mike, I think we are leading each other astray. :n00b: Stan's motor was NGY593, one of the M.O.S. tank haulers. Not sure how many of these were built :confused: PKK888 was sister to PGK887 (at one time owned and rebuilt with different body and cab by Steve Guest). These two were part of an odd order for 4, the other two of which went with AndyFowler's dad to Xmas Island. Both 887 and 888 may have been in research work, although there is a suggestion somewhere that they were in fact the long-term trial vehicles. Apologies for the confusion! At least I don't have to call her Flipper!! Thanks for clearing that up, I think Stan only referred to two on tank transport, but there may have been more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 Well Done 6 X 6, What a transformation, it looks great. A Proper Job! Thanks ekawrecker, and the others, who left complementary posts. And to think I nearly weighed it in a few months ago when scrap was 200 quid a ton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz76 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 :eek::eek::eek::eek:!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Thanks for clearing that up, I think Stan only referred to two on tank transport, but there may have been more. There is an excellent article in Wheels & Tracks #62 by Stan's mate Ernest Lundy - he went from a Mack to the second Constructor, and does not detail any major incidents like prop throwing or the like, other than yet another Constructor turning its trailer and tank over in the entrance to Luggershall depot, just 200yds away from the offloading point! The article contains a list, reproduced below, of 'some of the prime movers operated by the MoS Tank Transporter Depot, Great North Road, Knottingley': Diamond T 980/981 - HXU7, MLM64/65, NGY539, NGY567 Mack NM (petrol) - JGF363, JGF365, KYW37/38/42/43 Scammell Constructor - NGY87/88/592/593/635/636 So at least 6 Constructors....we can confidently assume that PGK887/888 were not ordered for tank hauling as they were supplied with standard army towing hooks front/rear, not the civilian style pin and muti-hole units of the 6 above. It seems that the 6 Macks were not really up to the job (85 ton GTW), so the 6 Constructors were probably replacements for these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I seem to remember that when Steve Guest showed me the order for what was then his Scammell, the order was for four chassis, but this had been crossed out and the figure two inserted in its place. Are we sure that all four of that contract were actually built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scammell4199 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Good stuff there 6x6. I was at the new years day road run with father and the Jeep, I didn't realise it was you, we did watch you move off though, and you're right it is a lovely exhaust note. Bloody cold day. Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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