Paddy Posted April 5, 2010 Share Posted April 5, 2010 Pioneer tank recovery team hard at work in North Africa. http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=52020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted April 6, 2010 Author Share Posted April 6, 2010 Pioneer tank recovery team hard at work in North Africa. http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=52020 Excellent clip Paddy ! Thanks for posting ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numan Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels v Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 (edited) Found some more pictures of Danish pioneers Edited April 22, 2010 by Niels v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Brought this picture at the weekend from the Rushden Cavalcade. Does anyone know if it's still around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 I like the name of that one Niels- "Jumbo"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels v Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Here is another two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scammell4199 Posted May 11, 2010 Share Posted May 11, 2010 Thats a nice rig - Pioneer, 7.5 ton Cranes and Loyd carrier. I want some thing like that to go behind our Pioneer one day. What would be really nice is a Locust on a 7.5 ton Cranes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Rat Posted May 23, 2010 Share Posted May 23, 2010 Does anybody know what paint scheme was employed in Italy during WW2 ? The Royal Engineers ran several Pioneers, both SV/2S and R100's pulling plant trailers on which they carried equipment and dozers, a lot of which had come from North Africa along with some DT 981's etc. Did they remain in desert colours or were they painted in olive drab ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Looking for suitable desert markings for mine.... Would ideally like to research the army history of it.. Any leads anyone? Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted May 24, 2010 Author Share Posted May 24, 2010 Looking for suitable desert markings for mine.... Would ideally like to research the army history of it.. Any leads anyone? Jerry Very nice mate ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invincible Mick Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Does anybody know what paint scheme was employed in Italy during WW2 ?The Royal Engineers ran several Pioneers, both SV/2S and R100's pulling plant trailers on which they carried equipment and dozers, a lot of which had come from North Africa along with some DT 981's etc. Did they remain in desert colours or were they painted in olive drab ? I had a neighbour who had been in the RASC in Africa and I think in Italy latter on so I did my Pioneer in RASC markings until I went to Normandy with it in 2004 and changed it to REME. I had all the info from the now defunct Museum of Army Transport in Beverley and would need to dig the letter out to give you the full details if you want. In the meantime here is a photo of it in the markings, unfortunately the diamond tread tyres split some time back, but I always thought they looked better than the bar grips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels v Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 (edited) Here are some ideers Edited May 24, 2010 by Niels v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Rat Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Some great pics Neils and Mick. So are we assuming that there may have been a mix of colours in 1944 onwards when in Italy ? I know that some of the Diamond T's kept their desert colour throughout. There is a pic elsewhere of a Pioneer in a collecion in Rome which is in olive drab, i suppose it ended its time in that region and was not repainted. Anyway, thanks for the info so far. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T80030 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Another couple to add to the mix Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Rat Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Niels, in the bottom picture, what colour do you think the cammo scheme is ? Also, does it say where it was taken ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels v Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Hi Desert Rat the description says: E 25254 A Scammell tank transporter carrying a repaired Valentine tank forms part of the United Nations parade in Cairo which saw 5,000 troops and vehicles pass through the city, 14 June 1943. Sadly nothing about the colour, but I think that its a two tone scheme, sand and light blue or green, but I cant tell for sure. I am fairly sure that the Scammell R100 towing the mathilda is in the 3 tone counter scheme with sand, blue and green. I found some more pics on the IWM site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invincible Mick Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Niels, in the bottom picture, what colour do you think the cammo scheme is ?Also, does it say where it was taken ? Hi Desert Rat I looked out the info sent to me in 1994 by the Curator of the Army Museum of Transport, Wally Dugan. He wrote: - " I feel RASC markings would be appropriate for your tractor as depending on where it operated, it could have been used in the Italian campaign by either the 8th Army or the 8th Armoured Division both of whom served in the Italy with the RASC". He then enclosed a brief history of the division which is on the scanned document shown. There was no mention of colour but in the end I used matt mid bronze green with matt black "mickey mouse ear" being applied with a 6" brush. I don't know how correct it all was but it was the best I could do at the time with the info available. I always thought that the RASC signs and Divisional marking were on the wrong sides. In the end it looked alright and I just concentrated on getting it out on the road. Hope it may be of use to you in some shape or form. Invincible Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Rat Posted May 26, 2010 Share Posted May 26, 2010 Hi Mick, Thats great info, thanks ! I know the Royal Engineers in Italy had a mix of Scammells, Macks and Diamond T's for pulling the plant trailers. I know the markings of one of the units in the 46th Div who were part of the 8th Army (which ties in with your info) but was just curious about the paint scheme. In all honesty, it appears that 'anything goes' from Mickey Mouse ears, to O/D through to desert sand and in Italy i don't think any one scheme would be better than another as they moved onwards due to the variable landscape. Once again, thanks to you all for the info. DR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Do we know this one? Something went wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted May 28, 2010 Author Share Posted May 28, 2010 Yes Bernard its owned by new members of the Scammell nuthouse Simon and Ellie ! http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?18838-Hi-from-Yorkshire&p=206151#post206151 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted May 28, 2010 Share Posted May 28, 2010 Well how did I miss that thread...must try harder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogwood Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Hello Im very happy to have found this thread.Ive recently came across a scammell pioneer and would like to know if it is worth doing anything with and how i can find information on this perticular one.Where would i find the chassis number atc, the story is as follows, Ive yet to see the paper work which the previous owner has but he reckons it is 1930, the crane is a Herbert morris 1944 and the engine is gardner 1958. Ive done a bit of research on it,but as yet have to get a propper look round the actual truck Also on another note the same person who has this gave me a photo taken in Doolen,France 1945 of a Mr Ted Wyckes of Derby,whom he Knows,infront of his scammell Gun Tractor Reg H4500290 I hope this is of some Value to someone on here. Also since looking in to this vehicle Ive taken a shine to them,Would anyody know if there are any examples in ireland? Thanks in advanve for your help.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Rat Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 Hi, It might seem like a daunting task but it does seem rather complete. Cabs and back bodies can be rebuilt and i doubt it will take much to get it running. Have a search and read some of the blogs about restorations and i'm sure you will be spurred on. :-) If you look at what some of the guys have started with, it makes your one almost ready to rally ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruggyjohn Posted May 30, 2010 Share Posted May 30, 2010 hi dogwood, the chassis number is stamped in to the chassis just infront of the bracket which holds the fuel tank. front bracket not rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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