Really . . .

[Adrian Dwyer]

I know these people walk among us but am I missing something here?  On Ebay.

[paul hocking]

Dreadful, a seller with limited knowledge hoping that someone with even less knowledge will buy it.

 

cheers

[Hair Bear]

Looks like Eddie Izzard.

[10FM68]

Is it Portuguese?

[jmehner]

I think it may be one of the 200 French ones - is there a link to the auction, please?

 

[Adrian Dwyer]

8 minutes ago, 10FM68 said:

Is it Portuguese?

The head gear suggests yes.

[Adrian Dwyer]

3 minutes ago, jmehner said:

I think it may be one of the 200 French ones - is there a link to the auction, please?

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285049787108?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D275609%26meid%3D7e2d27c03764451eac2939133ea59ec1%26pid%3D101770%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26itm%3D285049787108%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsV2WithMLRPbooster_BP&_trksid=p4375194.c101770.m146925&_trkparms=parentrq%3Afd99efb91920a89921557348ffffa212|pageci%3A60af5639-9ba4-11ef-ae61-669488042ad3|iid%3A1|vlpname%3Avlp_homepage

[jmehner]

Thanks,

 

enlarging it supports the Portuguese use, the French did have different registration numbers up front, and, indeed, no flaps on their hats.

 

 

[Adrian Dwyer]

16 hours ago, paul hocking said:

Dreadful, a seller with limited knowledge hoping that someone with even less knowledge will buy it.

 

cheers

Is that not ebay's mission statement?

[paul hocking]

Hi,

It looks like a Daimler Ferret, there is one for sale on MIlweb right now, photo below.

Turret heights look different, but otherwise the same.

cheers  

 

[10FM68]

2 hours ago, paul hocking said:

Hi,

It looks like a Daimler Ferret, there is one for sale on MIlweb right now, photo below.

Turret heights look different, but otherwise the same.

cheers  

 

 

 

You're quite right.  It is indeed a Daimler Ferret.  The turret difference is, probably, perspective in the different photos.  Lovely vehicles and ideal for their task - and one cannot but think rather better than their successors half a century and more later which are much higher, noisier and with open tops; vulnerable to overhead attack from the simplest of munitions (not to mention the weather)!  Hardly progress!

[fv1609]

If that is a German WW2 armoured car, then so is this.

[10FM68]

32 minutes ago, fv1609 said:

If that is a German WW2 armoured car, then so is this.

 

Of course it is, Clive - look at the number plate and the uniforms of those in the back!

[Johnny]

On 11/5/2024 at 6:30 PM, jmehner said:

I think it may be one of the 200 French ones - is there a link to the auction, please?

 

Barbe is the French word for beard, so possibly supports the French theory.

The Portugese translation would be Barba.  Similar but different.

[paul hocking]

Hi,

the mission statement is excellent.

 

cheers

[paul hocking]

Hi,

But did the French have Daimler Ferrets at any time ?

cheers

[radiomike7]

43 minutes ago, paul hocking said:

Hi,

But did the French have Daimler Ferrets at any time ?

cheers

According to Wiki the French had 200 and Portugal had 32 mk4s. As stated above it could have been a French one that was transferred to Portugal.

[Adrian Dwyer]

2 hours ago, paul hocking said:

Hi,

the mission statement is excellent.

 

cheers

It's quite close to life imitating art!

[Enigma]

12 hours ago, fv1609 said:

If that is a German WW2 armoured car, then so is this.

Or this WW2 German Gestapo coat, only 846,92 euro...😂

 

Edited November 7 by Enigma

[fv1609]

GNR caps

[Mk3iain]

On 11/5/2024 at 1:19 PM, Adrian Dwyer said:

I know these people walk among us but am I missing something here?  On Ebay.

Could it be Rhodesian ?

[Adrian Dwyer]

2 hours ago, Mk3iain said:

Could it be Rhodesian ?

That is a really interesting question.  Does anyone recognise the turret armament?

Edited November 7 by Adrian Dwyer
photo

[Adrian Dwyer]

Rhodesian Armoured Corps.  Date unknown.

This is also quite interesting re: the cap <https://www.onesixthwarriors.com/threads/rhodesia-and-south-africa-special-forces.31115/page-3>

BW photo from <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=639337046491306&id=140529419705407&set=a.143696252722057>

Edited November 7 by Adrian Dwyer
photo

[Citroman]

The coat is Dutch city police from Arnhem.

[jmehner]

7 hours ago, radiomike7 said:

According to Wiki the French had 200 and Portugal had 32 mk4s. As stated above it could have been a French one that was transferred to Portugal.

Unfortunately, it is a Mk2, not a Mk4, so Portugal goes out the window again, unless the Mk 4 info is wrong. Since there is what looks like a CCKW 353 in the background, it is not Rhodesian, as they had none. The French, on the other hand, had CCKWs well into at least the early 1980s, and the machine gun in the turret looks like a French AA-52. The Rhodesians used cal .30 Brownings, as did the British army.

Having had a look at other Portuguese vehicles, the registration on the front does not conform to their pattern after all (brain fart on my part), so it is most likely French with the tricolore obscured by the angle the photo was taken. The only thing unaccounted for is the Portuguese cap, which could have been a private purchase or exchanged with a Portuguese soldier.

Amazing, how a wrongly labeled photo can lead to such an interesting discussion - and still no definitive answer. 😀