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Hi Jiri,

I'm keeping a Register for the WD Enfields. Please send me a PM with some pictures of the frame and engine numbers, then this will enable me to tell you the despatch date of your bike. I can also calculate the census number for the petrol tank, the one that you're using now is not for a Royal Enfield.

Regards,

Jan

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Hello Jiri,

Thanks for the details of these bikes, I will add this to the Register. In which country do you live?

I can also give you this information: your engines and your frames all come from contract S/1546 bikes. This was a contract for 5000 WD/CO motorcycles, frame numbers for this contract were 19827 - 24826. The production of contract S/1546 started in June 1944 and lasted until May 1945.

- Your engine with "duplicated frame number" 21672 was despatched from the Redditch factory on 29/9/44, destination "War Office - Handsworth". The military census number (on the petrol tank) was C5164012.

- Your frame with frame number 22169 was despatched from the Redditch factory on 25/10/44, destination "War Office - Batley". The military census number (on the petrol tank) was C5164509.

- Your engine with "duplicated frame number" 23604 was despatched from the Redditch factory on 20/1/45, destination "War Office - Todmorden". The military census number (on the petrol tank) was C5165944.

- Your frame with frame number 22331 (***) was despatched from the Redditch factory on 2/11/44, destination "War Office - Batley". The military census number (on the petrol tank) was C5164671.

(***) Note on frame number 22331: this frame number has obviously been tampered with. An "M" prefix is not unusual for WD/CO frame numbers (see also frame number 22169), but here the M is preceded by an "I" and a strange symbol. And the M has been stamped over. The complete frame number (223310) is also too long, it should only have 5 characters. My guess is that the last "0" has been added later. There is also a second number (36564) added, this is not a Royal Enfield WD/CO frame number...

As for your original question: this is the transfer you need (but please cut off the lines in front of and at the end of the Royal Enfield text): https://classictransfers.co.uk/product/royal-enfield-6920-129x9mm/

Royal Enfield also used transfers for the census numbers, unfortunately the correct transfers for these Royal Enfield census numbers are not commercially available. But I have made up the complete set of numbers for Axholme Signs to make low tack stencils, so that you can apply the correct style to your Royal Enfield. You can find these low tack stencils here: https://www.axholmesigns.co.uk/product-page/pair-of-royal-enfield-census-numebers 

Regards,

Jan

 

 

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Hello Jan, thank you very much! Absolutly amazing!! I am from the Czech Republic. These motorcycles were bought last year in France. Me and my friend are going to go to Normandy on 3rd June with our bikes. Thanks a lot again. We are keeping the touch!

Regards Jiri

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Hi Jiri,

Ah, France! I have a theory that the Free French Forces, under the command of General De Gaulle, received a batch of a few hundred WD/CO motorcycles from contract C/12425 prior to the invasion of France on 6 June 1944. After the war, the remaining motorcycles from this batch were transferred to the post war French Army. A second batch was soon added. This second batch were all contract S/1546 bikes. My “educated guess” is that first and second batch together counted approximately 2.000 motorcycles. They were in use until the late 1950’s, making them the last WD Enfields in active service. Your two bikes come from the second batch.

I've also added two pictures of these French bikes. In the first picture the letters “TOA” can be seen, stencilled on the front mudguard. This is the abbreviation of “Troupes d’occupation en Allemagne”, the French equivalent of the BAOR (British Army of the Rhine).

Different sources have also confirmed that the French Army motorcycle engines were rebuilt by CEMEC (Centre d’Etudes de Moteurs à Explosion et à Combustion). This “company” was established in 1948, to rebuild the ex-German-army BMWs for the French police forces. Some French motorcycles were rebuilt by the “Etablissement general du materiel du Mans”, a French Army workshop close to the Le Mans circuit. Another “company”, called SNECMA (Société Nationale d’Etude et de Construction de Moteurs d’Aviation), was specialised in the rebuild of aircraft engines, but it appears that they too have done a lot of WD/CO engine and gearbox rebuilds for the French Army. On the French Army bikes there are usually several "rebuild markings". Please feel free to add some pictures of the markings / stampings on your engine Jiri! 😃

Regards,

Jan

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On 5/22/2021 at 4:11 PM, Ron said:

Lucky you Jiri! We've had to cancel our usual D Day visit last year and this year because the French vaccination program is not safe yet for us.😕  Ron

Hi Ron, there was big problem in the Czech Republic with covid (me and all my family was illness - not very nice experience), but I am a teacher, so I got the first vaccination a month ago. It is safe for me and others too. Anyway - maybe you are Ron - the owner of my favourite jeep!!

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11 hours ago, Chris Hall said:

I had one of these Ex French bikes too and I think the frame number was very close to that one (Jan likely has it on record). It’s very distinctive with its red outlined serial number.

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Hi, amazing!! Thanks a lot!

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Thanks Jiri! First time that I see a genuine military French rear numberplate on a WD/CO. Here are a few more, with close numbers...

The numbers on your engine are these:

- RL 386 is a French rebuild marking. Not sure what it means though...

- C/S1546 is the "contract number"

- M426 is the military "acceptance marking"

- 24675 is the "true engine number" (the number below the cylinder base is the "duplicated frame number".

Jan

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48 minutes ago, Jiri said:

Hi Ron, there was big problem in the Czech Republic with covid (me and all my family was illness - not very nice experience), but I am a teacher, so I got the first vaccination a month ago. It is safe for me and others too. Anyway - maybe you are Ron - the owner of my favourite jeep!!

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I spent a little time picking at that blue paint. There’s a lot less now than there used to be.

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On 5/23/2021 at 10:07 PM, rewdco said:

Thanks Jiri! First time that I see a genuine military French rear numberplate on a WD/CO. Here are a few more, with close numbers...

The numbers on your engine are these:

- RL 386 is a French rebuild marking. Not sure what it means though...

- C/S1546 is the "contract number"

- M426 is the military "acceptance marking"

- 24675 is the "true engine number" (the number below the cylinder base is the "duplicated frame number".

Jan

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Thanks a lot! Very interesting pcs!

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On 5/21/2021 at 7:39 AM, rewdco said:

Hi Jiri,

I'm keeping a Register for the WD Enfields. Please send me a PM with some pictures of the frame and engine numbers, then this will enable me to tell you the despatch date of your bike. I can also calculate the census number for the petrol tank, the one that you're using now is not for a Royal Enfield.

Regards,

Jan

Hello Jan,

I just joined this forum because I bought a Royal Enfield WD/C or WD/CO from a friend of mine. He was able to acquire this bike from Denmark and has just little information about it. It is said to be a 1939 or 1940 bike, but I cannot confirm this because there is no documentation. I did find the framenumber and duplicate number on the engine to be the same, but could not find data about the specific number via Google. At this time I also did not find the number of the engine and gearbox. I saw that you keep a register and information about lots of WD/C and WD/CO bikes and would like to ask you if you can help me out? The framenumber, which is also on the engine below the cilinderhead is 18147. On the gearbox I saw in permanent marker number 26625 written down, but I have not been able to see any stamped numbers on it because of where the bike is now stored.

Kind regards, Paul.

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