anubis68 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Hi all. Hoping for some help on a project my dad bought fast approaching 80yrs. He bought a flying flea its quite a basket case but he saw it and always wanted to do one up There are quite a few parts missing at a guess but his main question is can anyone tell him what year the bike could be? Frame number is OREM 20330 Engine is 11333 Any help would be much appreciated Many thanks Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Hi Terry. I don't know what the OREM is but the last military frame number in 1945 was 11129. They carried on into the 50's with the last of the WD models being civilianized, followed by purpose civilian models. I would hazard a guess at 1946. But the Royal Enfield Owners Club or VMCC should be able to date it accurately. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbayonetww2 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 We could help you better if you posted a photo of the Bike and of the numbers on the frame.. Also, are you sure the frame number isn't just REM and not OREM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubis68 Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 Hi thanks for the info . He has sent me these photos this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) I can clearly see that it's a post war civilian frame and engine. Has it got girder or tele forks? I think the REM prefix is from the later 40's. Ron Edited December 24, 2020 by Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 PS. here is my 1943 WD model. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbayonetww2 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) the engine magneto cover looks like a wartime one... no Royal enfield impression on the casing.. nice to have. Edited December 24, 2020 by welshbayonetww2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 The lighting pickup is in the wrong place, the barrel doesn't have the threaded exhaust port, clutch lever, kickstart and carb are all post war. I'm not trying to piss on anyone's firework! Just trying to give a requited opinion. 🙂Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubis68 Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 Hi thanks for the info . I will pass it on to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 That style of ignition was used after the war for export engines (to Sweden and Belgium), and some sort of generator, so deffo not wartime as Ron said. Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anubis68 Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 Thanks for taking the time to reply. He found the engine number 18434 from the actual engine. God knows where he got the 1st number from This is the whole bike as he got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) They look very nice in black and chrome! Ron Edited December 29, 2020 by Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 PS. Out of interest, there are usually two numbers on Royal Enfield's (war time anyway) One is the actual engine number which on a military Flea is prefixed with a 'V' (Villiers carb fitted) Then once the engine is fitted in a frame it is then also stamped with the frame number. Effectively then making them matching numbers. Here's mine. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbranni Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) Or maybe the engine prefix is a W as mine is.....................or is it an M? Kind regards Colin Edited January 3, 2021 by cbranni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rewdco Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 It's an "M" Colin. So far it's the only one with an M prefix in my Register, and I have no idea at all why it has a different prefix… Stupid mistake maybe? "Oops, I took the wrong stamp..."? Can’t imagine what it could mean. We've always assumed that the "V" prefix stands for Villiers carburetor, but the Amal bikes don’t have an A prefix, so I’m not convinced… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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