Jump to content

Restoration 4 - Matchless G3 Panel Tank


Recommended Posts

44 minutes ago, Ron said:

I saw your ebay link Chris. Thanks! Nice to know that we can just buy the bungies. As Rik just pointed out, it could well be academic anyway as we can't always rely on our parts lists. But with the evidence we have so far, I'm convinced that our 1940 contracts were still fitted with the Lycette bungie saddles.  Ron

No problem ron . I shared that link of thier seat as they didnt have the bungie only for sale but thats the seller i bought mine from i had contacted him and bought only the bungies only as i had the original seat. They are very nice and looks strong aswell.

 

Chris

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 655
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

Hi Ron, though I’d share with you an image of the original fuel tank, you can still see it attached to the fuel tap🙈😂

Hi All. After recently completing my James ML restoration idle hands set in again. I said to myself no more projects, but after the opportunity of an early Matchless G3 panel tank came up I

Oil tank on and newly renovated battery carrier fitted....slowly starting to look like a bike with the 8” headlamp. I am having a little trouble finding a 1” throttle barrel compatible with my tw

Posted Images

I certainly couldn't use my saddle as a reference Rik. But Steve's, probable original and Andrews definite original with rotten bungies still attached are good enough for me. Plus I really should have at least one bungie saddle in the shed!  🙂 Ron 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi All, all very interesting information regarding the saddle, this will be the first bungee saddle in my little collection too!

So moving on with my gearbox build I appear to have hit my first hurdle, the gear selector shaft looks to be a very snug fit within the camshaft bush, kick start end, this means I cannot fit the camshaft roller bearings.

I believe that the camshaft bush is the Ariel WNG type rather they the Matchless type, as I understand the WNG type does not require the roller bearings to be fitted?

Is this a rebuild improvement or just a mistake?

I don’t fancy putting it back together if it’s wrong....

52F5B468-DDF8-47E7-93A0-DDFBD6582581.jpeg

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi All, all very interesting information regarding the saddle, this will be the first bungee saddle in my little collection too!

So moving on with my gearbox build I appear to have hit my first hurdle, the gear selector shaft looks to be a very snug fit within the camshaft bush, kick start end, this means I cannot fit the camshaft roller bearings.

I believe that the camshaft bush is the Ariel WNG type rather they the Matchless type, as I understand the WNG type does not require the roller bearings to be fitted?

Is this a rebuild improvement or just a mistake?

I don’t fancy putting it back together if it’s wrong....

Link to post
Share on other sites

Lex is right. after gearbox 70975, the rollers were discontinued and replaced by a bush. Since your gearbox has that 48 rebuild date, it must have gone through that modification., Ron

Link to post
Share on other sites

Fantastic!

Thanks gents.....I can crack on with the assembly of it!

I will soon be turning my attention to the construction of the bottom end of the engine. Currently all of the bushes are missing from the timing side, which I maybe able to source from AMC classics, however, I have have a spare set of good bushes in a spare set of cases. Has anyone successfully removed bushes without damaging them or us it better to use new?

👍

Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks to the help and assistance of several kind gentleman a number of the missing components have now been sourced.

Currently I am not quiet sure ho I am going to repair the outer battery carrier, but keen to keep as much originality as possible....

Watch this space 

A2B54410-FBB0-4ED4-9ED8-5F4B3874E230.jpeg

182DCFB2-C773-4CCF-8B41-C46081FD7321.jpeg

778848FF-09D9-4541-B5E7-570B5BB26319.jpeg

9AD1178F-EB06-486C-B321-8F39C0544511.jpeg

Link to post
Share on other sites

Doing well Steve. It's taken me years to asses what is right and wrong with my bikes and then gradually correct things.

 

Ron

Link to post
Share on other sites

I only have a primitive ARC welder set up at present, however, we have a special bond 😉 I have welded many things with it, including cast, so I am sure with enough patience I can weld this up. I have seen that AMC classics have repro replacements but it would be nice to keep an original part, if salvageable 🙂 

Looking at your photo Ron I can see your battery clamp bolt look to have a elongated hex head. Are these available anywhere that you know of?

Link to post
Share on other sites

It does make me wonder sometimes? Since Lex gave me dimensions and now this drawing shows something slightly different. With all the best will in the World, not everything is being copied from an original it seems.  Ron

Link to post
Share on other sites

It may be the case that the cover and screw changed over time. I'm still discovering 'Early' and 'Late' versions of components on Nortons, with little visible difference but they were constantly looking for economies of material.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm not sure where my dimensions came from when I told you Ron, this was several years ago, and we had a batch made by Dave Plumb I seem to remember?

I got Arnes drawing after that.

There's not much difference I think? G3L seems to be the same, maybe some shorter round bits? to save weight?

Comparing the 2 factory shots, I now notice that the hinged plate is also different!!!  also weight saving! have to check that on my bikes!

Lex

1941G3L early Oil tank detail.jpg

Edited by welbike
Updated picture
Link to post
Share on other sites

Lex that's another Matchless part they changed without telling anyone! The 1936 part number for the battery carrier and the hinged front remained the same throughout all contracts as far as I can see.

Would you believe it? I've got the wide one on my G3L and the narrow one on my G3. I guess I'll have to swap them now.

 

Ron

Link to post
Share on other sites

😄😄 I'm telling myself I probably wont bother.......But I probably will!  I think both complete carriers need to be on the bench.....And I'll have to re-paint them anyway.   Ron

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


×
×
  • Create New...