champer 10 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Uncovered this from a friends garage, any ideas anybody. Supposedly a humber box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rootes75 18 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Looks more Humber Snipe Utility than the Heavy, any photos of the from bodywork which would shed more light? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Johns 24 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) It is not a Humber Box 4x4, ...it appears to be a military Humber Snipe 2 wheel drive chassis, with 900x13 tyres, there were military Woody utility estate versions, but this is not a military body, more likely its been rebodied post war with a longer and higher civilian coachbuilt 2 door body, the military Humber utilities were 4 door and used the steel bulhead and windscreen of the Snipe car as show in the photo below Edited September 13, 2020 by Nick Johns 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
champer 10 Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 Thanks for your replies, it has the roo bar high front bar like the heavy utility but its 4x2, the A pillar is more vertical the rear wheel arches and the wiper motor is at the top of the screen, although the wheels look the same this has sand tyres and it looks slightly longer. I think your idea it has been re bodied sounds good Nick Johns it gives us a starting point. We will get the front wings etc out from inside it and it might shed more light on it. It does look good though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rootes75 18 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Its a good looking project, very interesting! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Runflat 13 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 (edited) Almost certainly a post war body. Does it have a front brush guard across the radiator? If so, it's probably an 8cwt that's been converted. Edit: Just re-read the earlier post saying that does have the brush guard, so it would be a 8cwt conversion. Edited September 12, 2020 by Runflat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Johns 24 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Runflat said: Almost certainly a post war body. Does it have a front brush guard across the radiator? If so, it's probably an 8cwt that's been converted. Edit: Just re-read the earlier post saying that does have the brush guard, so it would be a 8cwt conversion. not only the brush guard, the Rear wings on the garage find are from the 8cwt too, agree its built on a Snipe 8cwt chassis, see pic in link below https://encyclopedie-des-armes.com/index.php/unites-mobiles/vehicules-legers/929-lorry-8-cwt-4-x-2-ffw-humber Edited September 13, 2020 by Nick Johns Quote Link to post Share on other sites
champer 10 Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 Excellent information, thank you. The next thing is to loosely construct the front panels to see what they look like, clear a bit more space around it and take some more pictures, it will probably be next weekend, i'll try and put them on next week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rootes75 18 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Look forward to seeing pictures of the front end. Interesting project. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
champer 10 Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 I spent weeks trying to talk myself out of this, failed! Its now in my shed, be a month or so before I can start. It looks like Runflat and Rootes75 are correct in it being an 8cwt converted post war, it has the PTO on the gearbox. The engine is seized and the radiator is missing with the frame to mount the radiator. The rear of the garage leaked, its the only vehicle I have bought with extensive wet rot, so probably the rear bisector wheel cylinders will be shot. I would like to meet somebody that has one to take pictures and measurements to fabricate the missing metal work. I will be taking plenty of pictures, maybe an article in windscreen then get it out to the shows. The front is only propped on to take pictures 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Runflat 13 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Have a chat with the Norfolk MVT group - one of their members has a Humber 8cwt they rebuilt from a post war woodie conversion a bit like yours: https://www.nmvg.org/about Nice project!! And with a PTO an FFW version as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
champer 10 Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 Thanks for that, I have seen pictures in windscreen from Norfolk and its a lead I intend following, covid 19 allowing! Even though its got the PTO I think I will keep it as a woody. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johann morris 47 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 That's a grand looking vehicle and a really nice project. My wife likes it a lot. Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
champer 10 Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 So does mine, keeps me out from under her feet! at least that what she says. Will definately be out to shows in it, but it could take a while. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rupert condick 10 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Hi i cannot find the post on this site But it was for a humber restoration, they found this number. I found this out maybe this helps, does someone knows who it was. regs rupert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
champer 10 Posted January 8 Author Share Posted January 8 Removed the cylinder head a couple of days ago, bores were rusty but not too bad, 2 pistons had holes in the side where a ring had broken and eaten its way out. Did a bit of number recovery from the heavily rusted and pitted chassis plate as per u-tube. Managed to just see the first 4 numbers of a 7 number code, it confirms it's a super snipe dated 1940, and matches a plate from the body which also gives me the contract number which was issued in 1940. Need to get my land rover finished then I can get stuck in. Anybody got a six cylinder side valve 4.1 litre Humber Pullman engine? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Farrant 45 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 56 minutes ago, champer said: Removed the cylinder head a couple of days ago, bores were rusty but not too bad, 2 pistons had holes in the side where a ring had broken and eaten its way out. Did a bit of number recovery from the heavily rusted and pitted chassis plate as per u-tube. Managed to just see the first 4 numbers of a 7 number code, it confirms it's a super snipe dated 1940, and matches a plate from the body which also gives me the contract number which was issued in 1940. Need to get my land rover finished then I can get stuck in. Anybody got a six cylinder side valve 4.1 litre Humber Pullman engine? I have rebuilt some of those engines and the block is the same on on Commer and Humber vehicles of the period, the flywheels and flywheel housings vary but they will swap over. I have had the blocks linered so you can go back to Standard bores if need be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
champer 10 Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 Thanks for that information Richard, hopefully it won't be too much longer when I can get on it full time. I know there is at least one tooth missing from the ring gear at the starter position, probably where somebody had a big lever trying to turn the engine over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rootes75 18 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) My advice is give Speedy Soares a call if you are after Rootes parts. They have found loads for my 42 Commer, they are in lockdown but are still trying to find me a starter ring for the 6-cylinder flat petrol engine. Edited January 9 by Rootes75 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Grundy 13 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 There is a company or one man band in Devon who supplied me with a starter ring for a Armstrong Siddeley. For the life of me I cannot remember his name but he was very helpful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wally dugan 40 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 HI BOB it may have been IAN WONACOT at classic spares always good for hard to find bits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
champer 10 Posted January 9 Author Share Posted January 9 Thanks everybody, certainly gives me places to try. I do have a scrap engine with a flywheel and ring gear, beyond rescue though, it has 146 teeth, 3/8" thick and 13 3/16" i/d. Really looking forward to getting started . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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