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 I met a guy who told me that 40 years ago,  a sergeant found out that members of his platoon had checked out a vehicle in his name and took it home. After telling his superiors that he would get to the bottom of this,  he left to take back the vehicle. Once he recovered it, he decided to take it home instead.  There it sat in a field, under a cover hidden from the world until another man bought the land 20 years later.  Now that man is selling this little gem. Can I buy this legally? Is it possible to check a MV to see if is stolen? Does it matter after 40 years?

 

Thanks for your help! 

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 A military registration or chassis number would be a start then check disposal records then if the story is true then it still is stolen

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I think under the law of property there is no time limit so if your Van Gogh painting was stolen in 1960 and subsequently found in the year 2020, it is still yours. My suggestion is, assuming the vehicle is actually stolen is to make the MOD a reasonable offer to own it and recover it from its location, which I guess they would agree. It would possibly cost them more to do the recovery. In 2007 the MOD sold EE Canberra jets for c £1 as long as the owner paid for the removal.

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That makes sense, the MOD won't want to waste their time and money dealing with something that has no use or relevance now.

Report it, make a sensible offer and see where that leads?

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If you have the details as Wally has suggested apply for the vehicles records as any MV owner would and see how they have described its disposal / struck off strength.   That way you won't unecessary be alerting the MOD that anything is wrong unless you have to.    They are just as likely to insist on putting it through their contracted disposal company if it is still their property.

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There are many MVs that have been disposed of by MOD that have no such struck off status on records. I know that for a fact as I have come across a number out here which have disposal circumstances beyond the UK norm but are legit. Go to any overseas country and you will find MOD kit on plinths and in museums as a result of gifting.

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On 7/31/2020 at 6:48 AM, oseveno said:

Hi everyone,

 I met a guy who told me that 40 years ago,  a sergeant found out that members of his platoon had checked out a vehicle in his name and took it home. After telling his superiors that he would get to the bottom of this,  he left to take back the vehicle. Once he recovered it, he decided to take it home instead.  There it sat in a field, under a cover hidden from the world until another man bought the land 20 years later.  Now that man is selling this little gem. Can I buy this legally? Is it possible to check a MV to see if is stolen? Does it matter after 40 years?

 

Thanks for your help! 

This really does have to be utter tosh.  So the man who bought the land knew the history of the vehicle because the guy who sold him it admitted to him that he had stolen it?

More to the point, anyone with any knowledge of military accounting in the 1970s/80s could never give credence to such a story.  Some soldiers steal a vehicle... the unit then allows the platoon sergeant to "sort out the problem" but he fails.  So the regimental quartermaster does what?  The CO does what?  The soldiers who, presumably, have been returned to the unit do what?  They don't claim at their own court martial that the sergeant took the vehicle off them?  The sergeant does what? 

No, if a military vehicle were to go missing it would be both an RMP and a civil police matter - as would the absence of the soldiers (AWOL soldiers can be arrested by the civil police) and no commanding officer would have any interest in asking a sergeant to sort it out, particularly if the theft of a vehicle was concerned he'd get the RMP involved straight away - he couldn't afford not to, after all, he too is responsible to the chain of command.  Valuable items in the Army are accountable, they can't just be accepted as being lost and put down to misfortune.  If a prismatic compass or a G10 watch goes missing there is a board of enquiry, so a vehicle?  No, I'm with Nick Johns on this one... I expect the vehicle was used to move crates of hidden Nazi gold...

 

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On 8/3/2020 at 5:44 AM, LarryH57 said:

I think under the law of property there is no time limit so if your Van Gogh painting was stolen in 1960 and subsequently found in the year 2020, it is still yours. My suggestion is, assuming the vehicle is actually stolen is to make the MOD a reasonable offer to own it and recover it from its location, which I guess they would agree. It would possibly cost them more to do the recovery. In 2007 the MOD sold EE Canberra jets for c £1 as long as the owner paid for the removal.

I must confess that as an American I'm a little in awe of the idea of a government agency that would do something because it was reasonable!  Here I think the government would want to reclaim such an item regardless of the cost or practicality because it's proper procedure even if it meant the eventual destruction of said item.

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