MilitaryCanAm Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Please excuse me in that I think I had the answer to my question but I’ve ‘lost it’. Increasing age might have to be my only excuse. Ex-Military vehicles with age related registration marks; for one with “declared manufactured” 1980 is it now MoT exempt or will it be so after the end of 2020 or some other time? Thank you. Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hummermark Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 What weight is it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rootes75 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 If it is over 7.5 tons does it not fall into the Historic category meaning it needs to be pre-1960 for MOT exemption? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilitaryCanAm Posted June 12, 2020 Author Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) Motorcycle. Can-Am to be precise. Edited June 12, 2020 by MilitaryCanAm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rootes75 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Definately under 7.5 tons then!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 You should be able to register it as historic from 1st Jan 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Johns Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Rootes75 said: If it is over 7.5 tons does it not fall into the Historic category meaning it needs to be pre-1960 for MOT exemption? 40 year old Historic Comercial vehicles over 3.5 ton built After 1960 are Not MOT exempt Edited June 12, 2020 by Nick Johns 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rootes75 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Nick Johns said: 40 year old Historic Comercial vehicles over 3.5 ton built After 1960 are Not MOT exempt Agreed. But just look at the amount of sellers on ebay and the like claiming commercials are exempt when they are from the 60's/70's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10FM68 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 58 minutes ago, 67burwood said: You should be able to register it as historic from 1st Jan 2021. Not until the 1st of April 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 2 hours ago, 10FM68 said: Not until the 1st of April 2021. Apologies my mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oats and barley Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) In the back of my mind there is 2 cut off dates in the 40 year bit tax exemption and MOT exemption are different one goes by the year and one goes by the month something like that one takes the year one takes the financial year Edited June 13, 2020 by oats and barley mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10FM68 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 5 hours ago, oats and barley said: In the back of my mind there is 2 cut off dates in the 40 year bit tax exemption and MOT exemption are different one goes by the year and one goes by the month something like that one takes the year one takes the financial year You are confusing the issue. As I said, a vehicle can be registered as a vehicle of historic interest from the 1st of April following the year in which it reaches 40. As any vehicle being so registered requires a current valid MoT on the date the application is made, then the date of MoT renewal thereafter is completely irrelevant as, once the vehicle is VHI, it will no longer require an MoT. But, if the MoT runs out prior to the application being made, then the vehicle cannot be registered as a VHI and a new MoT must be obtained. I am in that position myself as I cannot get an MoT at the moment. 10 68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oats and barley Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Well i must be mistaken i recently registered a Dodge WC51 Historic with no MOT and also a previously MOTd 1978 SWB military Landrover historic with no MOT the Land rover had no MOT when i bought it and had no MOT when i sold it it was reclassified as tax and MOT exempt and there is a different cut off point between tax and MOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oats and barley Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 The DVLA says Quote you do not need to pay vehicle tax if your vehicle was built before 1 JAN 1980 .this does not apply to large vehicles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I am not sure if this is the right place to ask the question; If the vehicle is Tax Exempt but for safety it gets an annual MoT does it need to be taxed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oats and barley Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) No the taxation class will remain historic sorry will need to be taxed historic but will still be nil charge Edited June 13, 2020 by oats and barley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10FM68 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 1 hour ago, oats and barley said: The DVLA says Quote you do not need to pay vehicle tax if your vehicle was built before 1 JAN 1980 .this does not apply to large vehicles You're right - but that applies from each April. So it won't change to 1 Jan 1981 until April 2002. But... and this is the more important point: it looks as though you are quite right regarding not requiring an MoT and, for that I sincerely apologise and thank you. Because, it seems there is a form V112 on which you can declare that the vehicle doesn't require an MoT when applying to register the vehicle as historic. I had previously read the guidance notes but clearly badly as under category "r" (perhaps I didn't read that far) it includes: "(GB only) A vehicle other than a public service vehicle registered or manufactured 40 years ago and which has not been substantially changed in the last 30 years." So, that means that, if you take your V5 and a V112 to a post office which deals with VED, with a cover note or insurance certificate they will send it all off for you and you're good to go. You may even use your vehicle prior to receipt of confirmation from the DVLA. I shall try this next week and see how I get on! Thank you again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oats and barley Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Its just a self declaration and forget your cover note /certificate they do not need it it will come up automatically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10FM68 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 On 6/13/2020 at 9:07 PM, oats and barley said: Its just a self declaration and forget your cover note /certificate they do not need it it will come up automatically I ought to have replied more promptly to this. I followed your advice, took my paperwork to the post office - they weren't interested in any supporting documents, (as you forecast) but simply sent off the V5 and within a couple of days DVLA had changed the status on line showing the vehicle as exempt from MOTs. The Post Office, despite being small and with relatively new staff, weren't phased in the slightest - they seemed to be familiar with the process, which surprised me. The replacement V5 was back within about three weeks. I am very glad you challenged my preconception regarding the MOT as it enabled me to get on and use the vehicle without having to wait for one, which, in the current climate would have been a pain. So, thanks for that! Cheers! 10 68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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