Mainfranken Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) Hello, my name is Toni, im from Germany, living in the area between Frankfurt and Würzburg. I found two of these "wheels" - I think theyre sprockets /driving wheels from a german halftrack - but I couldnt find any verhicle thats fits 100%. The wheel has red, grey and sandcolored remains on it, it was found on a "vehicle collection point" near Frankfurt, where verhicles from the Wehrmacht, but also from wrecked US tanks or other verhicles were collected, to get srcaped later , or when useful for civilians, repaired and reissued. Maybe someone can help me identify the wheels here? Thank you and have a nice time greetings Toni Edited May 11, 2020 by Mainfranken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Herbert Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Hello Toni, Welcome to HMVF. I do not see these as sprockets. They are too simple and the 'teeth' have not been worn to that shape and would certainly not drive anything as they are too shallow. Also the bolt holes are too near the outside so what they were bolted to would interfere with the track. I see them as spacers, possibly between double wheels, or as a reinforcing disk between the wheel nuts and a wheel to prevent fatigue cracking of the wheel. They do look rather low- tech to be WW2 German, but I don't recognize them as either US or British armoured vehicle parts of that period either. Hopefully someone will make a suggestion. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainfranken Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) Hello David, thanks for your answer, your opinion makes sense. It could theoretically also be a loot vehicle, we also had French, Czech and Russian parts of vehicles or artillery there ...It will be difficult to find out where it belongs.... First we thought it would be a farming machine, but the red,grey and sandcolors say clearly Wehrmacht. Toni Edited May 11, 2020 by Mainfranken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1950 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 A good clean with a wire brush, or possibly electrolysis may reveal some part numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainfranken Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) Hello, I will clean them this week, they were in rainwater for 2 weeks , to soak. We found lots of these parts next to the wheels, theyre massive and heavy. Maybe they can help ... Of course they could be from another vehicle, but who knows... The scale in in centimeter greetings Toni Edited May 11, 2020 by Mainfranken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainfranken Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 some new photos, the wheels have red painted dots/markings around the wheel ... tomorrow Im going to remove the rust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1950 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Quite a bit of detective work to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon_M Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) The big disks and the cast lugs with the single holes look like what the Americans call "Dayton" wheel components, like the cast centre in the image below with six of the bolt-on lugs at the end of the spokes. Yours may be trailer wheel centres or spacers for that sort of rim. Lay one of the big disks down and put one of those lugs over each of the ten bolt holes to get a rough idea if they would fit. Edited May 11, 2020 by Gordon_M 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainfranken Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 Hello Gordon_M, yes it could be something like that , thank you for your answer - in Germany these wheels are called "Triplex" or "K-Rad" - usually they were made of cast iron and very massive. Now I have to find a verhicle that fits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainfranken Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 Some new photos, the "red dots" are painted on a flat cirular surface - about 22mm There is also some letters - I think its french " côté opposé" and something like 31 or 81 BAX or "BIBAX" at the bottom are some numbers, but hard to read. côté opposé means "opposite side" The other one has no visible markings. So it seems to be french... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainfranken Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 The frontwheels of the german "Generatorwagen M-16" look similiar but theyre much bigger. about h the double size. https://www.oupsmodel.com/vehicules-militaire-135/75110-plus-model-514-generatorwagen-m-16-wehrmacht-135.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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