Slurr Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Hi all, I am helping restore a 2Pdr on an original mark 4 trail which is mostly the same as the early 6Pdr trail. The parts needed are mainly 6Pdr , so any 6Pdr or US 57mm parts that people are willing to part with, please PM me to let me know. Parts we are needing are: Elevation mechanism with handwheel, traverse mechanism with handwheel, round axle, saddle supporting bracket which connects to the axle, Firing lever mechanism, Handbrake levers, sight mounts, trail attachments. I am interested in any parts, as complete or incomplete that you may have, as it will still help us move forward with getting this unique artillery piece completed. If you have parts but not willing to part with them, accurate drawings will be greatly appreciated too. I have attached a few photos for your reference to what I am looking for, and the assembled one is from a museum in Canada. Some of the pictures are from the US 57mm but I am using those pictures as a representation as they are a very close relative to the 6pdr with some interchanging parts. This original mk4 trail that we have managed to make its way ALL the way to little old New Zealand, so it will be the only one of its type here when it is complete. Any help is greatly appreciated. David Burr New Zealand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Does the Mk IV carriage use geared traverse? That was deleted very early in 6 pdr production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurr Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) Hi Adrian, Yes, the MkIV was the transition between 2Pdr and 6Pdr. This picture shows the traverse mechanism on the 2Pdr MkIV carriage. That is why there is the dome shape in the earlier shield if I am correct. Edited April 18, 2020 by Slurr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 The dome is indeed to clear the traverse wheel and is often seen in 57mm guns withought the geared traverse. It might be they just used up earlier production shields or possibly guns were converted to delete the geared traverse. Were all the MkIV carriages built in Canada? 6 pdr shields and trail legs are marked '2 pr & 6pr' so clearly were intended for both but so few 2 pdr on Mk IV survive and as all seem to be in Canada, I wonder if they were only produced there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurr Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 The trail legs we have are clearly marked and only says 2Pdr MkIV and is built by Canadian General Electric. There is no mention of 6Pdr on it anywhere. General Motors 'Regina plant' also manufactured these trails, and they made extra refinements for production. I do not know if the MkIV was produced by other countries, but I 100% know that Canada built them. From all my searching so far, I haven't seen anything about the MkIV trail being made by another country, apart from the 6Pdr trail that you mention. I believe the traverse was on the early production because with refinement they changed it to a quicker system to what the later 6Pdr has without having a geared traverse mechanism which is slow and takes up more resources to manufacture. Before the 6Pdr, having a traverse hand winding mechanism is what they knew I guess. It appears there is a similar 2Pdr attached to the top of the Tank Hunter Carrier, but it doesn't have a traverse mechanism like the A/T gun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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