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Evening everyone 

Question time??? 
 

Now the doors are taking shape I am looking at the glass and winding mechanism, I recently got all new glass cut by a local company, it’s standard 6mm laminated glass which is slightly thicker than the original but there is room for manoeuvre so no problem with fitment

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So…just for a change the runner on the bottom of the glass is rotted 🙄

 

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My question is….can you buy the runner which is stuck to the bottom of the glass and if so what’s it called ?? It’s difficult to google when you don’t know the name. 

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5 minutes ago, Citroman said:

It says window channel in the Volvo parts guide... But if i see the swedish name it's Lift rail (translated)

There may not be an official name, I thought it could be window runner or window channel but the range of parts is massive 

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Good to see you got some glass cut, I am trying to do the same locally as someone has replaced our door glass with perspex!!

We have a 1937 Ford Ten car and the window channel is different to yours, maybe the Fordson range of the time, 7V or E88W etc would be the same?

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10 minutes ago, Rootes75 said:

Good to see you got some glass cut, I am trying to do the same locally as someone has replaced our door glass with perspex!!

We have a 1937 Ford Ten car and the window channel is different to yours, maybe the Fordson range of the time, 7V or E88W etc would be the same?

The glass was cut and polished by a regular glass company, they used the originals as templates, 4 pieces of glass cut and polished edges £90, I thought that was fairly reasonable. 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Small amount of progress and a lesson learned!! 🤨

 

Finally got a bit of free time to start painting the top coat on the doors and various other parts, it was going oh so well until I went to mix the paint 🙄

 

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Clearly I should have listened to the advise given earlier in this blog in regards to paint storage 🤔 a wise man once said “ decant your 5L tin into individual 1L tins “ ……..well I didn’t and now I am paying for it….. 3L of paint  now useless  and the painful exercise of straining the lumps out to paint the doors.

 

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Lumps strained and the cab is green…..again 

 

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16 minutes ago, Rootes75 said:

How old was the paint? Thats a lot of lumps formed.

I am toying with the idea of brush and roller painting top coats on ours as its outside. I do find spraying much quicker and easier though.

The paint is only 6 months old, I think the problem is opening and closing the tin multiple times allowing air in each time. 

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One other thing to try is keeping the tin lid clean so any dried paint doesn't fall into the pot when you lever the lid open.  This is particularly a problem with those large, plastic B&Q-type buckets of paint.  I was doing some DIY recently and ended up in a right state with all the bits which had fallen from the plastic lid into the paint and then got onto the brush.

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Finished the top coat today and still having problems 🤨

 

Strained the paint and yes the wife knows I’ve borrowed a sieve 🤥

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Still having problems with the paint, it’s not particularly cold down here but the paint is really gloppy, I’ve had to thin it more than usual and it’s still not spraying right. The paint is synthetic but I don’t know if it’s affected by lower temperature, it was 15 today so not what you would call cold, any ideas??? 
 

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Some of the door parts painted 

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windscreen frames 

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lastly the doors. 
 

any spray paint advise or pointers would be greatly appreciated. 

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 I think the sieve might be too rough for the smaller lumps and you need to filter the paint through something finer. I use nylons and it works just fine. (don`t tell your wife and hide the leftovers well 😄)  Or buy a proffesional paint filter.

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I am not that knowledgeable about paint but I was told a long time ago that it is very important with synthetic paint that you never put unused, thinned paint back in the tin as that will cause the rest of the tin to start to set. I have dutifully followed this rule and never had problems but I really don't know how true it is. Could this be your problem ?

I agree with Duson that something finer than a kitchen sieve would be better. I have used a square of kitchen paper towel (very strong when wet and disposable without causing divorce) in a scrap kitchen sieve that was dumped because it was too coarse and damaged.

I must congratulate you on your new found welding and fabrication skills - you really are getting good at this !

David

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The paint lump thing really isn't a problem. I see you are mixing your paint and thinners in a mixing pot before putting in your gun. Well, go to your local auto paint supplier and pick up a pack of paint strainers, they are conical paper things with a fine plastic mesh in the bottom, sit one in the top of your gun pot and pour your thinned paint through it. I do this with all my paint just to make sure i don't get any blockages. 

Good luck. Richard

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1 hour ago, Scammell4199 said:

The paint lump thing really isn't a problem. I see you are mixing your paint and thinners in a mixing pot before putting in your gun. Well, go to your local auto paint supplier and pick up a pack of paint strainers, they are conical paper things with a fine plastic mesh in the bottom, sit one in the top of your gun pot and pour your thinned paint through it. I do this with all my paint just to make sure i don't get any blockages. 

Good luck. Richard

I agree this is the best way, although you can use the kitchen sieve first to get rid of the bigger lumps that will block the funnel strainer.

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Nah, whack it through. The thinned paint will find its way to the bottom of the chunks. 

One thing i found the hard way - where i was painting something large and re-filling the gun several times i was re-using the same filter. Don't do this, fresh filter for every fill of the gun, because the yellow pigment in green is heavier than the other pigments and can settle out in thinned paint and spray little yellow flecks in your lovely paint job.

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Many thanks for all your comments and advice, I’ve just ordered a pack of paint strainers which I didn’t know existed but does make complete sense!!  no more borrowing kitchen implements!! or nylons 😂

 

The sieve will still handy to remove the big lumps before properly straining, it was irritating to say the least when you spend so much time repairing and prepping only to have the spray gun spit lumps of paint on the panel and obviously it’s always going to be right in the middle of the panel 🤬

 

8 hours ago, David Herbert said:

it is very important with synthetic paint that you never put unused, thinned paint back in the tin as that will cause the rest of the tin to start to set.

I don’t put mixed paint back in the tin……anymore 🤨 I learned this on the last tin as it did reduce its shelf life and the finish started to get more Matt, not sure how or why but left over mix now gets saved for touch up with a small brush. 
 

8 hours ago, john1950 said:

I would ask your paint supplier or local paint shop what temperature they run their paint booth at for modern paints. I would think the can would also have that information on it.

The paint was from War Paints , R R Motor services , this is the second tin from them and I can’t recall the first one going thick/gloopy and I definitely used it in cooler temperatures.  

 

4 hours ago, Scammell4199 said:

One thing i found the hard way - where i was painting something large and re-filling the gun several times i was re-using the same filter. Don't do this, fresh filter for every fill

One filter per fill 👍

 

Everyday is a learning curve, thanks again for the advice. 
 

Seamus 

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  • 2 weeks later...

At last some parts are finally going back on!!

drivers door first

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Winding mechanism serviced, new window channel flock fitted 

 

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Glass fitted after a bit of a fight and fettling with the lift channel 

 

Drivers door hung and lock adjusted

 

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The door fits lovely, it was worth taking the time to dry fit and adjust before paint. A couple of days later I found time to start fitting the passenger door, I fitted the glass and winder but wasn’t happy with the window operation, the lift channel was rubbing very slightly on one corner when the window as fully shut, so……I decided to fettle 🙄 then disaster!!! 🤨

 

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I cracked it 🤬🤬🤬🤬 Not an expensive mistake just bloody annoying.

 

 

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